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skipped an archetype like time before last?
(04-20-2019, 05:17 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(04-20-2019, 03:47 PM)TheNomad Wrote:
(04-19-2019, 09:09 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: We are 1850s redux. The authors thought that was a 3T too and gave the 4T only 5 years. But it was the 4T, and so it today. That explains everything and no revision is needed.

Sorry to ask this but can you explain that?  I've not been able to grasp how archetype was "skipped".  I do the numbers in my head and seems strange.  Because if G.I. generation were Heroes, and they were born at turn of that century, CW was only about 20 years prior.  What was skipped, when, and exactly?

The Civil War was 35-40 years before the birth of the first GI Generation member, according to Strauss and Howe. What they did was a bit strange. They called it the Civil War anomaly. They and some of their readers say it was because the Civil War Crisis came too suddenly and was over quickly, so there was no time for a Hero Generation, and so the civil war soldiers were not "heroes" and the civic archetype was "skipped" in that saeculum. I guess they felt that the civil war happened because the civic viewpoint was missing.


But actually, what they did was extend the preceding prophet generation to 30 years. That is longer for a generation than in any saeculum, including the longer ones from before modern times.

I look upon the civil war generations as hybrids, and sub-generations, myself, and retain the basic S&H dates for them, and redate the turnings to smooth those out and include the 1850s as part of the 4T.

I think I accept lengthening the bracket.  The numbers seem to add up eventually.  80 years is never just '80' but 70-90.

Adjusting the bracket to 1850s, I'm still unclear since the G.I. is named as Hero, right?  They are born in the 20th century.  Not during the war or before it.  I know not too much about that culture, but still trying to know what, exactly, was "skipped" there.

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RE: skipped an archetype like time before last? - by TheNomad - 04-21-2019, 03:43 AM

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