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Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil
(02-16-2017, 03:10 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(02-16-2017, 02:09 AM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(02-16-2017, 01:47 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:
(02-15-2017, 07:47 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(02-15-2017, 07:14 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: They don't even seem to even know who the radical Muslims are, when they go a-bombin'
Could be. But the US just can't seem to stop meddling. Why the fuck are we still dorking around in Afghanistan, Iraq,Libya,Yemen,and Syria.  If we're just counting bombing locales, the US is about 5 times as stupid as Russia since we're a-bombin in 5 countries as apposed to Russia's 1.Also, yeah, they don't do PC which gets them even more brownie points.
Withdrawing our troops from the Middle East isn't going to stop the spread of  radical Islam.

That's not my intent because military action is the wrong tool. Basically, the people there need to sort their own stuff out because we can't fix that place. It's beyond recall. I'm just demand we stop being 5 times as stupid as Russia.  Besides screw Israel.  I'm a citizen of Oklahoma and the United States. I'm not a citizen of the world and of course not a citizen of Israel. If Israel wants to build settlements, fine, just let them get the blow-back. We also need to stop  being associated with lightning rod issues like Israel.
What was your intent? Withdraw and watch as radical Islam takes control over most of the Middle East. Can you imagine what the world be like with radical Islamic's who are armed with nukes? A scary new world with much higher stakes than the sorta scary old world that we grew up in. I don't consider myself to be a citizen of the world either. However, I'm not foolish enough to ignore history and a couple of World Wars that could have been prevented or significantly reduced with the existence of a super power like us today. We (us and all our allies) have unbelievable military power that can be used against radical Islam within the Middle East. It's better to deal with them now over there.

1. Like I told Eric, I'd just let Russia and Iran take care of Syria.  Both of those countries do not want radical Islam, like IS. So, for Syria, just let Assad,Russia, and Iran  handle that situation.  Now, since they'll screw up IS in Syria, that takes the pressure of the pieces of Iraq. Iraq isn't even a proper country. So. let's just let the Kurds or Turkey have that one.  You can't pick both, it has to be either Turkey or the Kurds. I'd just let the spooks decide which one is best to support with arm shipments.  No bombings , drones, etc. Afghanistan, what do you think will work? We've been there a long time and nothing's worked so far.  Libya is a real stupid thing.  We killed Qaddafi and left a vacuum for IS.  That was just so brilliant. I can't fix that either. That's why I just said, let it go. There's nothing to fix it. The Super Power thingie is a myth.  Do superpowers have 3rd world infrastructure like that damn in California and I-35 in the twin cities?  The US spends more on "defense" than the rest of the world.  Of course we're not dealing with them "over there".  Orlando's proof of that. The best way to keep 'em out is to not let them in to begin with. I do not want the US to suffer the same fate as Europe.  Europe just fucked itself in the ass with Merkel's madness.  The best thing we can do wrt safety from radical Islam is to keep it out. That means no refugees allowed. Let's learn that lesson from Europe.  Yeah, I know I might have triggered any special snowflakes, but oh well.  This is where outcomes determine the means. Now, you ask, about retaliation. Yeah, sure, that's what drones and the Spec/OPS are for. It's 4th generation warfare, so 4th generation tactics are how you do it.

3. Uh, you indicated earlier a concern about balanced budgets.  How about we cut military spending to achieve balanced budgets. I'd of course use taxes to achieve some balance. How about debt free money? And of course getting rid health insurance commpanies,VA,medicaid and just have a single proven program do all that stuff?

4. I think the meme of "if we don't meddle in a bunch of places" .... that we'll get another World War.  Papa Uncle Sam has to keep all the children of the world in their place. I find that attitude rather weird and probably a meme brought into being by PNAC or something.  PNAC thinks just like that. Their platform is the US always , always knows what's best for a country because we're a benevolent leech that steals with the help of assorted local elites other countries' stuff.
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RE: Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil - by Ragnarök_62 - 02-16-2017, 03:40 AM
Stupid is as stupid does... - by Ragnarök_62 - 04-05-2017, 07:54 PM
RE: Stupid is as stupid does... - by pbrower2a - 04-06-2017, 01:56 AM
RE: Stupid is as stupid does... - by Galen - 04-08-2017, 08:47 PM

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