Trump Trainwreck - Ongoing diary of betrayal and evil

[Eric the Green]

(02-21-2017, 12:14 AM)Marypoza Wrote:

(02-21-2017, 12:02 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-20-2017, 11:27 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(02-18-2017, 04:48 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump is trying as hard as he can to make sure we continue to depend on their oil, and support Israel. It's safe to say we're going nowhere fast, when it comes to getting out of the Mid-East. It seems like a pipe dream to me.


I'm glad you let me view myself as I wish. You might not be so sanguine about the fact that I think you're a world citizen too. We all are; that's the world we live in. So, I'd say, I'm not viewing myself that way. It's just the fact, man.

No, not pure evil at all, and not witchy. Not by a yuge long shot! Just a bit of hyperbole on her part. A bit of braggadocio and that's it.

Well, that's a bit better than your previous rant. I don't disagree, but I don't think whatever is done along those lines will relieve our labor surplus due to tech.


The West allowed Hitler to expand. But yes, it was also WWI and the depression that were causes. This whole time was the end of one age of civilization and the beginning of our own. Cataclysmic.


That's an easy one. Singling out Muslims as he does insults them and provides propaganda for the terrorist recruiters and discourages needed allies everywhere. As far as I can tell, Trump's cutting off refugees entirely, not reducing the number. I agree about bombing, except that Obama's raids on the IS are carefully planned and necessary, and working well unless Drump mucks it up. Other than that, it's not a good strategy. We are lucky the Afghans haven't turned on us.

Mideast Oil:  The fact remains that we're on the cusp of "cheap oil" from anywhere will collide with physics that [energy returned on energy invested will go to such a low number that oil becomes not sustainable. The real pipe dream is that we can run our economy on oil period. The best thing to do now is to use whatever time we have ... to use fossil fuels to build renewable energy sources. The time is now to fabricate windmills/solar panels.

And it's up to companies, customers, blue states and foreign governments to keep this trend going, since the Rust Belt has hired Drump to try to keep fossil fuels going and stop the transition. His crew believes in pollution, ignorance, wealth-grabbing and prejudice above all else.

Quote:I'm not a world citizen Eric. The USA has a chance to escape the trap of physics behind food production / energy getting messed up. Localism in food production/ renewables can work.  The transition from the current energy regime to the new energy regime takes lots of domestic focus, not saving the world stuff. I'm channeling my own inner Boomer which means , yes my own path to take the USA from fossil fuels and my path to a sustainable future.  The age of limits is all so real to myself, but I want to confine that to something that is workable. So, Eric , I want an agenda that is both idealistic, but passes the BS test. Welcome to the "cusper zone. Welcome to the Jones Zone, right?  I think that's the point of contention on a great many things.

I doubt that has anything to do with it. We are all world citizens, and that's not idealism; just the fact. Yes, we can all do our part in the energy transition. It would be so much easier if the federal government was helping, as it was under Obama. Now that won't happen for a while.

Quote:Hillery: No Eric, not hyperbole. She's not grounded in reality along with stuff that isn't workable. The same goes for all Neocons. The actions she and other Neocons just simply won't work. Interventionism is just not worth effort, OK ?

Hillary was grounded in reality. She did not send troops anywhere, nor advocated it. Rigid rules do not a foreign policy make, but in general I agree interventionism is to be avoided.

-- christ on a crutch!! I don't ever, evah wanna hear you accusing me of bringing up that irrelevant bitch again

Since I didn't bring her up here, no I can't make such a promise to you, if you do it. Sorry.

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Quote:Rant?  Really, Eric. Now, think about the things you, yourself exalt. I do that also. I'm an INTP or I'm just a Joneser. I don't know which label is behind my strident pushing said agendas....  So... I think the default labor surplus should be addressed because that part of my reality is something to fix to head off that source of societal instability Government in general needs to fix this. I'm one to allow government to address anything that sustains "ensure domestic tranquility". I don't think you'd disagree with that.

Yes I agree, although unfortunately we don't have a federal government now, and you don't have a state government (and I do). The labor surplus should be addressed, but stopping illegal immigration is not the fix, since it's not the cause of said surplus.

Quote:So, do you agree that WWII was a one off and the solution does not apply now ?

Every time and place is different. But we need to learn the lessons of history. Tyrants and international outlaws arise, and world order must be maintained. The USA plays a major role in that, but should not play the only role, and a USA war is a last resort not a first one.

Quote:Muslims:  This not a catch all. Here's the deal. Not all Mideast refugees are Muslim. Here, not all refugees from the Mideast are Muslim. I have no problem with allowing folks from the Mideast are Muslim. Christians and Jews have been persecuted by say IS.  Those folks who are persecuted should be allowed to go to the front of the queue. It's a fact non Muslims are indeed persecuted along with others. Put those in front of the immigration queue. Besides they are far more able to assimilate. Obviously  those who assimilate should be allowed in from a humanitarian stand point.  As far a numbers, yes there is a limit so assimilation happens instead of saving everyone.

The most persecuted people today are the people of Syria. They are not persecuted because of their religion. As a realist/idealist and an INTP like me you can be aware of facts, beyond propaganda. Assad's and Tulsi's propaganda is dead wrong. The Syrians are fleeing genocide and political murder, and we are locking the door. NO, if we are the USA, then we have no religious test for immigration. That has been properly ruled unconstitutional. Trump's madness need not sway you; leave it behind, and cling to facts and American basic values and laws instead. You are smart enough not to be caught up in Drump's crap, even if you live in a red state.

Quote:Afghanistan:  What you wrote speaks for itself. Leave before blow-back occurs. And of course, bombing is not a way of winning friends and influencing people.

Leaving might be the right choice, but it won't happen. We are stuck there, probably as long as there is a USA. That could be at least 300 years.

-- nah l don't even give it 30. Secession- that's what this 4T is about

Yes, very likely. But Afghanistan was a 3T war to start with, so whatever its dates are, has nothing to do with what the 4T is or when it ends.

And for the record (again), there is a danger of the USA going to war again abroad at the same time as the highest danger of secession occurs. The year 2025 or 2026. The Jupiter cycle will be coming round again; plus the Uranus cycle. The two domestic and foreign events could be related, and I don't expect either event to last past the end of the 4T in 2028 or 2029.