09-28-2018, 12:25 PM
(09-27-2018, 10:00 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:You weren't listening to her testimony, she claimed it took her a only a few years to put the incident behind her and move on with her life. I don't know if she she was lying or not. I don't know if she had a mental issue of some sort at the time or not. I don't know who her friends were or the kind of girl she was at the time. I don't know what people who knew her thought about her at the time. You see, she wasn't thoroughly investigated and legally forced to turn over her medical records pertaining like she normally would in a court of law. Who knows, she may actually have been the friend of the witness that she claimed had witnessed it who she she claimed had serious issue of her own at the time and the person on top of her friend may have been the friend of Brett's who had the drinking problem and the person who jumped on top of him and pulled him off her friend may have actually been Brett. Now, I understand that guilty by association is often viewed as good enough for most uppity blue half wits these days.(09-27-2018, 03:46 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-27-2018, 02:10 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(09-27-2018, 12:43 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(09-27-2018, 10:10 AM)pbrower2a Wrote: The testimony by Christine Ford is on the air... and it is as unflattering a view of Bret Kavanaugh as is possible.The lady seems like she's a ditz. The lady seems like she can be emotionally unstable at times and very forgetful at times as well. I wonder if she is being treated for a mental disease that was largely unknown, undetectable and untreated during the time period she claims the incident with Bret Kavanaugh occurred with her.The liberal view of Kavanaugh has been largely unflattering up to this point. So, what's new about that? I do feel sorry for her being used by the Democrats the way she is today.
A hand covering her mouth and nose is far worse (she was scared that she would suffocate!) than pubic hairs on a soft drink can or references to the pornographic "Long Dong Silver".
Do you know what it is like to be raped or to be assaulted in a context in which you can be raped? I don't. This is a very strong statement. If her testimony cannot convince one that she was assaulted in the context of a potential rape, then nothing can other than the confession of a rapist.
She has the sort of memory characteristic of someone who has been sexually assaulted. As far as I am concerned, she was most damning when she said that BK put a hand on her nose and mouth, scaring her that she could be suffocated. What other context could there be.
She admits to behavior characteristic of someone who has feared that she was going to be raped -- even her admission of claustrophobia and the double front doors on her house that damage its value.
I have no illusion that Donald Trump will not nominate some other reactionary jurist should this nomination implode. He could in theory nominate someone on Death Row to be a Justice of the US Supreme Court. He could in theory nominate someone who has the legal philosophy of Nazi "hanging judge" Roland Freisler. He could nominate me, for all the Constitution dictates (ridiculous in view of what I think of him). He could nominate a snake, and I mean a literal legless reptile. More reasonably, he could nominate someone who believes that workers have no rights against employers, that vote fraud is fine as long as it serves the current leadership, that damnatio ad bestiae is a fair way of dealing with political or religious dissidents (read the book or see the movie Quo Vadis? to know what that means -- OK, that is casting Christians to the lions, so you don't have to search the stacks of a library or to find an old movie), or that abortion is a crime against humanity in the same sense that herding Jews into gas chambers was. Or he could nominate a political hack.
Yes, elections have consequences, and I wish that we had elected someone else in 2016 as President or at the least we had a different Congress than one whose majorities believe that no human suffering can ever be in excess so long as it serves a tiny fraction of the public that matters more than everyone else. But we are stuck with Donald Trump.
Traditionally, character and competence have mattered for appointments to Cabinet positions and especially the US Supreme Court. This nominee, so far as I can tell, is Robert Bork with a history of sexual assault.
Nope, I don't know what it's like to be raped or sexually assaulted. As I mentioned before, I don't really care about what happens with you or you rights and don't really care if the blues let you keep some or not either. Yes, there was a time when character and competence mattered more than race and gender but that time has passed as far as the Democratic party goes these days.
I wouldn't wish rape or sexual assault on anyone. I have seen stories of people who had the experience, and they live in very different worlds from those who have not had such an attack on their persons. 36 years later Dr. Ford still has problems with a sexual assault (or an assault that initially seemed as if it would become sexual). She is a brilliant person, a holder of a PhD and a college professor.
Rape is the antithesis of sexual freedom, one part of which entails the right to say no. Rape is a dangerous, degrading crime that can easily end in murder. When I was seventeen (FYI, I am a man) I found the idea of rape sickening. It was not a way to get a woman, and I did not think one orgasm with a scared and hostile female worth a prison term. I wanted to get to know her and her to get to know me. I expect far more than sex out of my involvement with women.
But you should recognize from my posts that I am a law-and-order type, anyway... I just do not believe in exploitation and oppression which I consider unlikely to foster social concord. I am convinced that my side will do far more to protect the rights of conservatives than your movement conservatives will do to protect my rights. Human decency is essential to the survival of freedom. Donald Trump and Bret Kavanaugh have shown that they are monsters. They have shown their poor character, and that has nothing to do with race, gender, or cultural origin. Kavanaugh is apparently a brilliant man, but brilliant people can be evil. Think of Ted Kaczynski.
The power of your contemporary Movement Conservatives looks to be on the wane. The confirmation of Bret Kavanaugh (which could be a strict party-line vote) could well be the last victory of your side in American politics for a long time. Your conservatives have soiled conservatism as an alternative to liberalism. In an ideal world, conservatism goes into hibernation while it rediscovers a soul, divests itself of superstition and bigotry, and becomes less plutocratic... and becomes a check upon uncaring, corrupt, incompetent, inattentive, and reckless pols while addressing the interests of communities that will never be liberal. My side is for learning... and success in life is on the side of the educated. If I had to sacrifice white privilege for a first-rate education, I would.
Conservatives are going to look at the election of Donald Trump and wonder how they could end up with someone that awful.