05-10-2019, 12:36 AM
(05-09-2019, 01:29 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: On Climate Data:
https://principia-scientific.org/nasa-ex...ata-fraud/
CO2 is incredibly weak as a driver of the climate. The Sun is far far stronger and solar output is increasing.
https://www.space.com/2942-sun-activity-...firms.html
Since PBR commented on plants, the numbskull obviously doesn't understand that the lungs of the planet are not the forest (yeah they make oxygen too and are pretty) but rather the Oceans or rather the phyto-plankton in the oceans.
Carbon dioxide is a powerful contributor to global warming, but it is less variable than some other gases either rarer (chlorofluorocarbons and sulfur hexafluoride of human creation; methane which may be released from methane clathrates) or the highly-variable water vapor. How variable is the atmospheric water vapor? As much as a factor of 5000, depending on temperature from the coldest, driest air around sea level (typically around -42 C
in parts of Siberia in the winter) to the most juiced air known around the Persian Gulf (a shallow body of water on the fringe of the tropics) in the summer. The greenhouse effect hardly exists in polar areas, but it can be very strong in tropical and subtropical areas.
(I was using "plants" to include phytoplankton and algae).
Quote:The Left has even stopped calling it "global warming" because quite frankly the planet isn't warming enough. One should always be wary of those who are attempting to sell doom and gloom. They are as dangerous, in fact probably more so than those who are claiming everything is fine.
My class interest is to maximize my profits as much as possible. Having superfluous staff does not do that and is thus not in my interest. But even when I was a communist I had little use for unions in the American Context.
The Earth need not warm much for its ecosystems to be in trouble. Any inundation of the Earth's lowlands stands to create economic problems -- and even legal anarchy involving ownership of property. A Pangloss may say things such as "Hooray! We won't need to shovel so much snow!"-- in ignorance of the role of snow protecting soil moisture from evaporation and providing melt water for tender shoots of plants. The corn in your corn flakes and the wheat in your shredded wheat depend upon winter blizzards to allow maximal growth. For good reason much of the cereal industry is located in Battle Creek, Michigan -- the rough border between the corn and wheat belts. Global warmi9ng would take away the blizzards, with more of the winter precipitation becoming rain that flows away instead of covering the soil and becoming available to plants in the spring.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.