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Revenge of the Forgotten Class
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(08-13-2017, 05:51 PM)Kinser79 Wrote: I have far more in common with left leaning libertarians than I do with right leaning authoritarians. (Though I would usually call most of those left leaning libertarians degenerate scum, and to their faces no less.) On the political compass while the left-right axis gets lots of play, it seems to me that the emerging dynamic that isn't paid attention to, and is starting to be is the authoritarian-libertarian axis.

Perhaps Boomers are in an industrial age time warp.  The left-right axis dominated the industrial age.

By "left leaning libertarian", do you mean prochoice libertarians, or do you mean "libertarians" who seem to believe government provision of goods and services works as well as the free market?

As we move toward a first turning, I think movement away from liberty and towards authority is inevitable.  As best we can preserve a few of the liberties we have - as happened last time around when libertarians managed to prevent massive government collection of data, except with the IRS where they ensured the data could not be disseminated widely even within the government. I've thrown in with the Republicans because their coalition at least seems to have some room for classical liberals, which the Democrats don't seem to have.

In addition to the cyclical transition, though, I'm also concerned about the secular transition to a postindustrial age.  Once war is no longer primarily based on personal firearms, governments will lose the incentive to permit substantial portions of their populations firearm use.  At that point, personal liberty, which is largely a mechanism to protect the elites against individuals who feel sufficiently oppressed to engage in assassination, may no longer be seen as a useful concession by the elites.
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Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Dan '82 - 11-12-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 11-13-2016, 05:03 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Galen - 11-13-2016, 11:08 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 11-14-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Galen - 11-14-2016, 04:18 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-13-2017, 04:43 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-13-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-14-2017, 01:33 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-15-2017, 05:12 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-17-2017, 10:34 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-16-2017, 05:16 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Warren Dew - 08-15-2017, 01:34 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-16-2017, 10:01 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-14-2017, 06:08 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by noway2 - 08-16-2017, 02:31 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-18-2017, 07:34 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by noway2 - 08-18-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-18-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-24-2017, 12:48 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-24-2017, 06:29 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-18-2017, 07:27 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-24-2017, 12:45 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-25-2017, 02:21 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-25-2017, 11:35 AM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 08-25-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by Kinser79 - 08-25-2017, 03:44 PM
RE: Revenge of the Forgotten Class - by pbrower2a - 11-03-2017, 01:34 AM

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