11-20-2016, 07:11 AM
(11-19-2016, 03:47 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(11-19-2016, 02:29 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
Should We Give Donald Trump a Chance? | The Resistance with Keith Olbermann | GQ
"All we are saying, is give fascism as chance? It might not be as bad as we think?"
Through Obama's two terms, the Republicans in Congress gave me the impression that they cared more about making the first black president look unsuccessful than they cared about the United States being successful. The blocked everything he tried to do. The new Democratic senate minority leader in his coming in speech said he did not intend to do that. He would not reject and idea because it came from Trump, but he sure would reject bad ideas, fighting them tooth and nail. I think this an important distinction, in part because I don't think the Democrats need to worry about Trump seeming like a successful president.
In the early presidential elect period, I'm not seeing that Trump is taking many of his campaign promises all that seriously. As such, I'm not sure what in the world he intends to do. To that extent, and to the extent that there seem to be enough Trump demonizers doing their thing, I don't think I need join the demonizer bandwagon just yet.
I am also seeing president elect Trump being the same guy as candidate Trump. I was wondering if he was willing to fan the Republican base with hate and unusual ideas as a candidate, but would show a more intelligent rational side once elected. So far, the only sign of a rational Trump has been what Obama has been saying. Obama seems to be the biggest advocate for 'give Trump a chance' thus far. While I don't care for demonization, I find myself less interested in giving Trump a chance than Obama is.
Now, I don't think the country is going to shake off its unravelling funk, it is not going to have a regeneracy, until the work together to promote good ideas crowd dominates the extreme partisan demonize anyone who disagrees crowd. Our current culture of demonization brought us Trump. Everyone in Washington being demonized resulted in the real unvarnished non-Washington guy getting elected.
At the same time, there is a strong case that Trump really is a demon and ought to be demonized. Olbermann's point of view is hardly unique. The demonization bandwagon is rolling, will not be stopped, the volume is unlikely to diminish.
My magic eight ball predicts an ugly 2 years followed by a disaster for the Republicans at the mid terms. The question for me is what this will do to the extreme partisan divide. I can see the gap, the mutual misunderstanding and distrust, being made worse, the government becoming even more dysfunctional. I can hope for an anti-Trump coalition pushing for more good ideas than partisanship resulting in a regeneration enabling unity. I can see a mix, with the divide of ideals being as strong as ever, but with one side having the numbers to quash the other.
Worst of all, the stagnant unravelling bickering could continue unchanged.
Considering the source I assume the we is Democrats. How does Trump need Democrats to do what he intended to do? The GOP hold on the levers of power, the Democrats are powerless, unless they deploy the fillibuster, in which case it will simply be taken away.