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Democrats organize to fight back
(06-14-2017, 06:07 AM)Odin Wrote:
(06-13-2017, 11:55 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:
(06-13-2017, 10:25 AM)Eric the Green Wrote: Trump deceived people, some of whom are in economic trouble in depressed states, to think he was anti-establishment. That was a lie. He is the essence and substance of the Establishment. He is carrying out their plans to increase the power of the Establishment in every facet of our lives. Libertarian economics is their constant mantra. They are sitting around Trump in the cabinet, praising their leader like he's the savior. The Republican side, although it has its divisions, seems to have an easier time uniting behind someone who may not be their first choice, because they are authoritarians and better able to accept whichever candidate representing authority and the elite is chosen, and who can carry out their destructive plans.

A lot of that is right.  I have a feeling the old guard Republican establishment would rather have one of their own, somebody who has played by the usual Reagan - Bush - Bush rules and style.  I know I'd rather not be attempting desperately to stay atop their current unbroken wild horse.  Washington DC is going to be a wild and crazy place as long as that particular 'outsider' is occupying ground zero.  Trump doesn't have the insider contacts, savvy political skills or cooperative personality to give the Republican establishment a smooth comfortable four to eight years.  He is basically playing the unraveling memes for all they are worth, though, repeating trickle down borrow and spend excrement while pretending to care for the little guy.  He has just shifted the style to dupe the gullible.

On the other hand, Trump beat the old guard Republican candidates fairly cleanly.  He is more in touch with the middle of the country than the establishment GOP.  A lot of people are truly sick of the establishment GOP.  I kind of doubt any of the old crowd could have taken Hillary.

I'm mostly hanging back and hoping he doesn't do irreparable damage, other than destroying the planet of course.  Perhaps you do need a Buchanan or a Hoover to get a Lincoln or an FDR?  Did we really need a Trump?  While I haven't seen an escalating spiral of violence, the divide in the country's beliefs is certainly profound.

It didn't help that there were so many candidates that the Establishment could not get one person to get behind, it was a shit-show split between Marco The Robot, JEB! (please clap), and Kasich. Cruz got the Religious Right. Trump's original base in the primaries seems to have been the type of people that 35 years ago would have been called "Reagan Democrats", working class white people who vote Republican because of social issues, racism, and xenophobia, as well as Neo-Confederates.

So many candidates, and all such poor candidates; and perhaps only JEB (please clap) was a genuine corporate establishment Republican. Trump won partly because of the paucity of good, electable candidates on both sides.
"I close my eyes, and I can see a better day" -- Justin Bieber

Keep the spirit alive;
Eric M
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RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-14-2016, 02:52 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 11-15-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-17-2016, 08:00 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-18-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-18-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-25-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by FLBones - 12-09-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:16 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-14-2016, 08:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 04:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:01 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:02 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-25-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-26-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-28-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 12-30-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-26-2016, 04:59 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-29-2016, 03:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Bronsin - 12-30-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 03-11-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-26-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:43 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-02-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:04 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-27-2017, 01:35 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:34 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-14-2017, 06:07 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 06:57 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Eric the Green - 06-14-2017, 09:27 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-16-2017, 06:26 AM

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