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Democrats organize to fight back
(07-24-2017, 04:12 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(07-24-2017, 09:51 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: This will be forgotten much sooner than General Sherman, but CNN is reporting a few democrats are pushing for a better deal.

It may be just a style preference, but I think it's about time they started echoing the 'New Deal' language.

Dunno about that. 

1. The information referenced wrt DNC starts with "Republicans are doing X and we oppose what X does".

Why note call the "repeal and replace bills" something like "Cut health care spending as offsets to future tax cuts bills."
Next, say "We Democrats are going to introduce a Medicare for all bill" .

2. Here's some change I can believe in.  We're gonna cut the DOD budget and use those savings as a down  payment on Medicare for all. Next, steal Trump's border adjustment tax , call it a VAT, and use that $ to offset increased health care spending. Hopefully, that will get all of the shills to STFU about out of control spending.

3. Better jobs:  OK, let's take Amazon's fulfillment  centers as an example.  Call centers also do the shit outlined below.

4. Abolish monitored work. That is to say, no more doing what Amazon does. They can no longer monitor workers by how many orders the fill with those bar code things.  Call centers can no longer monitor the number of calls resolved in a certain time period.  People are not hens. Hens are culled [fired] when their egg production falls due to age.

5. Allow OSHA to fine the hell out of employers, again Amazon from making folks work in dangerous work conditions like no air conditioning, shoddy stairs, and force them to protect workers from belts and the like.

6. Protect the borders and then after that's fixed work on path to citizenship.  All workers' protections/wages depend on the lowest level of workers. No more exploiting folks by threats.

I just just in general think some specific goals and how to meet them is in order here.

Perhaps we make congressmen swipe a bar code when they pass something?  Wink

A movement towards OSHA to pass more fines and regulations would get grumbles from the middle of the country.  Best stay clearly specific on empowering the government to hamper businesses in general.  Rightly or wrongly, at the moment we've got as many knee jerk anti government bureaucracy reds as we have knee jerk anti business blues.

In general, I agree with the notion of the Democrats being for specifics rather than just blanket in opposition to the opposition.  We saw enough of stubborn partisan refusal during Obama's years.  The three 'better deal' Democrats seem starting in that direction, but there will certainly be discussions over how the wish lists ought to be ordered.

I've also heard of a new culture or ethic of jobs without work.  Hillbilly Eulogy in particular has stories of rust belt folk so busy avoiding work while at work that their productivity is negligible.  There is nothing in the Bill of Rights which guarantees right of access to opium derivatives.  You can't ban supervisors from knowing how much work is getting done.

One of my first jobs was in a plastic manufacturing factory. Open door to molding machine, remove part, close door to molding machine (which started the next part going), package the last part. As I did this, a little counter on the side of the molding machine incremented each time a part was made. To a great extent, that was what I was paid by. I never thought anything wrong with it. In this day of computers, there are so many ways to bump counters.
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RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-14-2016, 02:52 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 11-15-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-17-2016, 08:00 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-18-2016, 08:06 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-18-2016, 04:31 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 03:22 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:23 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:04 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 11-22-2016, 04:54 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-22-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 11-25-2016, 04:05 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by FLBones - 12-09-2016, 04:11 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:16 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-14-2016, 08:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-13-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 04:20 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:01 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-22-2016, 05:02 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-25-2016, 07:03 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-26-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 12-28-2016, 05:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by tg63 - 12-30-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by TnT - 12-26-2016, 04:59 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 12-29-2016, 03:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Bronsin - 12-30-2016, 01:42 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 03-11-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-26-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:47 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:43 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-02-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:04 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 06-03-2017, 01:18 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-27-2017, 01:35 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Galen - 05-28-2017, 02:34 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-14-2017, 06:07 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-15-2017, 06:57 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Odin - 06-16-2017, 06:26 AM
RE: Democrats organize to fight back - by Bob Butler 54 - 07-24-2017, 07:18 PM

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