(11-18-2019, 09:32 PM)AspieMillennial Wrote: Wouldn't a turning begin in Russia in 1991, the fall of the Soviet Union?
Justin 77' on the old forum argued why Russia's last 4T did not end until 2000. Because unlike the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe, where the transition was largely peaceful and smooth. The period after the fall of the Soviet Union until 2000 (with the end of the battle stage of the Second Chechen Civil War), for much of the rest of the former Soviet Union, was a lot of political upheaval in Russia and much of the rest of the Soviet Union after it fell in 1991. There are also wars such as First Chechen War, Nagorno-Karabakh War and Tajikistani Civil War. Indeed, the mood throughout Russia, which was very dark during the 1990s, started to get brighter after about 2000.
However, in countries in Eastern Europe which were part of the Communist bloc, the Fall of Communism was a very different experience. For countries expect for Yugoslavia, the fall of Communism was quite peaceful and rapid, apart from violence for a short period in Romania. Also, the experience for these countries, was a euphoric one. Not surprising 1989, with the fall of the Berlin Wall and the ‘Second Summer of Love’ was the end of the Awakening for the European Continent and Britain.
The former Yugoslavia was different since Tito’s (who was a Nomad) sheer force of personality, keep together the different countries of Yugoslavia for a long time. Also, his rule kept the lid on ethnic tensions, which exploded into wars after the fall of former Yugoslavia. The way to describe the wars in the former Yugoslavia, there were an Unraveling literally from hell, with armies led by fanatical Prophets and Nomads with 'flexible' morals. Indeed, there are a lot of parallels with the the Insurgency in Iraq after the Second Gulf War and the Syrian Civil War (both Unraveling events for the Arab World).