05-14-2020, 06:35 PM
(05-13-2020, 05:44 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(05-13-2020, 01:38 PM)David Horn Wrote:(05-13-2020, 01:21 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: We know what you've been teaching them, we hear it from them all the time and we are threatened to be sued by them all the time. I agree with what JFK said too, which is why the American libertarians are going to cripple you politically and end your reign and force them to accept equality or get the fuck out of here.
What constitutes your idea of equality?
In my opinion, a sense of mutual respect and commonality are needed to achieve/gain equality among peers. You're the kings of equality. What constitutes equality in your opinion? MLK and his followers were willing to earn/gain equality the American way. So, what do you think about liberals who continue teaching minorities that their inferior to them as their calling whites racists and blaming issues related to them on racism? Do you thinks that's OK and think it should continue being taught by the left? I happen to think you're all racists and view minorities as their servants and their means to remain in power these days. I have faith in my peers to begin figuring that out and begin to distance themselves from the Democratic party.
If liberals don't believe in equality of results, then they at least believe in equality of opportunity and equal rights to basic dignity. If you are talking about MLK, you must remember that his idea of the American Way was quite different from the concept that Bull Connor held. We may not be able to decide what is any single American way (Fulton Sheen and Elijah Muhammad had very differences on religion, and both are equally American), but we might be able to decide what isn't American -- like showing support for a cause like Stalinist Communism, Nazism, or ISIS intolerant of the values of most Americans. (OK, I relish some music that is in no way American, but I am not going to destroy rap music in the name of Johann Sebastian Bach or Dmitri Shostakovich).
Yes, many of the problems that many blacks have have nothing to do with white racism. Anyone who fails to take advantage of the opportunity to learn in school is a schmuck no matter what his pigmentation. Poor whites envy middle-class non-whites who have done much to improve their lot. Crime? Street drugs? Premarital sex leading to unwed pregnancy? Those all offer equal opportunity for prospective losers. Racism is real, but some things can hurt people even more.
I can say this: a member of the black bourgeoisie would be more desirable as a potential in-law than some white meth-head. Most people have means of sizing up others for intelligence and achievement (such as grammar, word choice, topics of discussion, and choices of accessories). I can even cut through an accent or broken English as with someone whose English is not as good as his expertise at some academic or professional field. Expressions of homophobia, racism, and religious bigotry rub me the wrong way. Yes, I can exercise moral judgment.
Most of us liberals know people in the black bourgeoisie. I do not assume that a dark-skinned woman in an expensive house is "the maid" unless she is dressed to look like a maid. Many of us cannot afford to hire domestic servants.
Finally -- it is the current Hard Right that has given America's model minorities no cause to associate with it. Contempt for learning is contempt for what brought success to non-white and non-Christian members of the American middle class, as well as to most in the white middle class. Superstition, anger, and ignorance are all for losers.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.