05-20-2020, 01:00 PM
(05-18-2020, 06:46 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: First, Mr. Horn, I never claimed to have any knowledge of epidemiology. So we can ignore that little dig. We know you probably know about as much as I on the matter as well. That being said the healthcare system is not being over run with cases. Not even in New York City. Why? Most people with the virus are actually asymptomatic. If they don't feel sick and don't think they are sick they have no reason whatever to go to a hospital. As such much capacity that was added to deal with Carona stands empty while at the same time necessary life saving procedures are being delayed by the lock down.
The case with Italy is probably a result of Italy being well Italy. Which reminds me of this:
Old Joke Wrote:Heaven is where the cooks are French, the police are British, the mechanics are German, the lovers
are Italian and everything is organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the cooks are British, the police are German, the mechanics are French, the lovers are
Swiss, and everything is organized by the Italians.
Next. Let us suppose the idea was to slow the spread of the virus...that can be more easily done by face masks (to prevent those infected from spreading it rather than from the healthy getting it--that is why and how masks help, I know because I had to do a large PPE presentation at a company meeting and that is exactly why the CDC tells people to wear a face covering [and no an N95 mask isn't required, it is ideal but not required a simple bandanna will do]. The other thing to do is to wash hands, which people handling food should be doing anyway and is required health department training for all my staff anyway. There was no need to lock down healthy people at all.
Also South Korea, Australia and New Zealand are very small countries and are not suitable comparisons for the US to use. China is closer but their numbers are heavily skewed. They aren't testing and they aren't reporting, and quite frankly the CCP can't be trusted.
Let's agree that masking is smart, so we can avoid that topic in the future. We disagree about isolation and social distancing. Frankly, this is a disease that infects the respiratory system directly, and has a relatively high R0 of ~2.8 (higher if the incidence of asymptomatic cases proves very common). Masks aren't enough. The disease is simply too infectious. Which brings us to the issue of crowded conditions and playing by the rules. The error rate in cities like NYC cannot be very high and still keep the virus at bay. If you live in a five story walkup with narrow stairs and hallways, all masks need to be N95 … but they aren't.
Intelligence is not knowledge and knowledge is not wisdom, but they all play well together.