The Coronavirus

[Eric the Green]

(08-23-2020, 11:03 AM)CH86 Wrote:

(08-22-2020, 02:48 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-22-2020, 02:15 PM)CH86 Wrote: Sorry Boomer, Xers, Millennials and Homelanders are NOT going to give up their culture, their traditions, and their music or their guns just to satisfy the obsolescent views of a bunch of Control freak boomers and Radical Feminists.

Right now, Biden has framed it as character, compassion, decency, science and democracy are all on the ballot.  I tend to think they will win.

Now I know you mix your generations together.  Your perspective makes the primary conflict between generations rather than between red and blue.  You have abandoned S&H in favor of your own prejudice.  It has not occurred to you seemingly that there are progressives and conservatives in each generation?  Thus, you have a rather skewed perceptions of motivations.  But, if you want basic American values, you sort of have to get rid of Republicans this election.

I don't see the Democrats as going after culture, traditions or music.  That shows you just have no clue as to true motivations.  You try to whip up absurd fears.

Guns?  The one thing Trump may have done right is approve judges who are into the intent of the authors of a law and to the text.  They may not be as loyal to Trump personally as he likes, but they stay loyal to the intent of the authors and to the text.  The Second is obsolete.  Compromise is possible.  If the Democrats try to ignore the Second they are apt to run into an absolute barrier.  If they try to compromise, who knows?

Nope the Red vs Blue is more a binary conflict among boomers, Among the young it effectively becomes a three way fight with Both Conservative and working class progressive hating the globalist feminist culture of the boomer bootlicking SJWs. A Democratic party that sides with SJWs instead of progressives is very likely to crackdown against culture, traditions and music, as well as attempt to take away our gun rights. Which Side ultimately becomes home of the under 50 crowd will win the current political divide. Right now the GOP is more apt to do so because they are embracing younger leadership and most of their top leaders are middle age people. Meanwhile the DNC is currently filled with elder dinosaurs and the only young people allowed are SJWs who agree with every insane thing the elder dinosaurs propose. Also the DNC party leadership is actively attacking the younger elements of their base for having the "Wrong" views on many issues; again the leadership favors instead SJW sycophants to the boomer leaders.

A final note here: The DNC is clueless especially given Biden and the DNC claiming we need "character, compassion and decency" nope, most xers, millennials and Gen-Zer's consider those to be fighting words. We despise boomer tyranny and attempts by boomers ever since Xers were teenagers (Before we millennials and Gen-zers were even born) to turn us into globalist boy scouts. WE HATE GLOBALISM AND WE HATE GLOBALIST TYRANNY, UN TYRANNY AND HUMAN RIGHTS TYRANNY.

It is sad the Boomers and their Globalist SJW sycophants have hijacked the word "progressive", this is what confuses many people both of the left and the right. Actual progressives hate globalism, hate Biden, hate Kamala, and LOVE Tulsi.

We progressives of all generations will continue to love progressive leaders, as we hope Biden and Kamala will be, and some will mistakenly love Tulsi too. We support the UN and recognize the truth in globalism, but oppose corporate favors given in its name, and support fair trade. We support local and community rights, but recognize that nation states are fundamentally anachronistic, if taken as primary, and that war is obsolete and to be avoided unless attacks occur by rogues. We despise fighting among generations, and understand that real T4T fans value all the generations and the 4 archetypes. Boomers who attack younger generations, and younger generations who attack boomers, are not true readers and fans of The Fourth Turning and Generations.

Human rights and democracy we progressives take as fundamental, and vigorously oppose those tyrants who put down and oppress people by taking them away. Also, we recognize the Rights of Nature, and the primary need to reverse climate change, pollution and habitat loss. Social Justice and the rights of all races and genders is essential to a society that recognizes human rights, which also include the right of cultural expression, and the rights, value and need for both spirituality and science, and does not include supposed gun rights, hoping that they can be limited or curtailed wherever possible. Progressives value work and workers, and the need for income and health support for those in need and for regulations and unions to protect fair wages and working conditions in all nations and globally. Such regulations also protect smaller business and entrepreneurs against infringement of genuine free enterprise by monopoly capitalism and oligarchy and ruthless speculators.

I look upon the Green Party and its 10 Key Values as originally conceived, as the best carrier of the progressive movement, and the voice of the future.