Is Trump embracing aggressive withdrawal?

[Ragnarök_62]

(02-27-2017, 11:23 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:

(02-27-2017, 02:00 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: I know. The US first got duped into WMD's owned by Saddam, then the US and I'm gonna point a finger right now:  The US meddling led to the rise of IS, yup, it's our  fault.  The deBaathification of Iraq is part of the puzzle.  When it comes to understanding tribal interactions, again, the US is a moron.  It's the reverse Midas touch. Everything the NeoCONS's came up with turned to shit. Afghanistan,Libya,Syria,and Iraq, all gone to shit.

Again Neocons had very little to do with the clusterfuck in Syria. That was created by Syria's murdering dictator. His actions made it easy for the US-enabled Islamic State to move into the vacuum of eastern Syria.

Quote:No. It's outsourcing and globalization that did that stuff.  Like I tell Eric,  no more illegal immigration , institute a VAT tax, and crack down on  H1-B's.

And like I said, other major factors too, besides outsourcing. Illegal immigration had nothing to do with any economic decline for anyone. VAT tax should be nixed. Remember also automation/tech, low minimum wages, hogging by the rich, lack of taxes on them, poor investment and social support, etc.

Quote:Oklahoma doesn't have nice policies like this.  Where do you live?   I want to sponge off of Warren.
http://www.okdhs.org/services/snap/pages...gible.aspx

It seems you might feel better in MA, and Warren would like OK better. Why don't you trade places?

We have no good solutions to offer until the electorate decides to restore sanity to our government and put progressive Democrats into power. So, we can continue to discuss policies we want that can't happen until that happens, I guess.

1.  A step by step process of the clusterfuck.
a. The deBaathification in Iraq was the proximate cause of the rise of IS.
b. From the Wiki article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War
"In December 2011, former counter-terrorism specialist and CIA military intelligence officer Philip Giraldi asserted that already "unmarked NATO warplanes are arriving at Turkish military bases close to the Syrian border, delivering weapons from the late Muammar Gaddafi’s arsenals as well as volunteers from the Libyan Transitional National Council who are experienced in pitting local volunteers against trained soldiers" and that in addition, "French and British special forces trainers are on the ground, assisting the Syrian rebels while the CIA and U.S. Spec Ops are providing communications equipment and intelligence to assist the rebel cause." Giraldi stated that "CIA analysts are skeptical regarding the march to war" for reasons including that "the frequently cited U.N. report that more than 3,500 civilians have been killed by Assad’s soldiers is based largely on rebel sources and is uncorroborated" while cautioning in The American Conservative that "Americans should be concerned about what is happening in Syria..."

(So  CIA spec ops?  Eric, you and I know this song and dance is just so old.
c. Obviously if the Neocons didn't trash Iraq, no IS.

illegal immigration is, you know, illegal.  Also, there are almost no jobs that "American citizens won't do".
https://www.numbersusa.org/pages/jobs-americans-wont-do
http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impacts_o..._jobs.html

Well, for starters end that fucked up over time exemption for farm work.  I don't care if I pay a bit more for food.
E-verify baby.  Fine the fuck out any employer who enables illegal immigration.  Again, I say have 'em pay up $100,000 each illegal hired + tax fines/back taxes for payroll taxes.  Yeah, man fuck 'em hard in the ass with a spintered phone pole.  Drill,  baby drill, as Palin says.

Oh, yeah automation, I could go for guaranteed income, something like Finland has for that.  The VAT tax is what I propose to use to pay for single payer health care. I want my idea to have a funding source so the Republicans can't bitch about it.

Uh, cutting down the spigot on immigrants would make the minimum wage go up, all other factors considered.

The rich.  Yeah, I'd just make capital gains income the same as earned income. Let's nuke loopholes, tax breaks, and whatever else is mucking up the graduated income tax.

There, that's the pot of money for infrastructure right there. I'd also lop off a lot of money in the defense budget.


Yeah, Warren and I should trade places. I like MA's climate a lot better as well!  AGW's really messed things up here.  The fourth year without a winter. 

Wrt electorate.  Maybe if the Repugs ditch the ACA, lots of folks 'll get mad.