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Trump brought the Regeneracy, just not in the way he expected.
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(03-09-2017, 06:43 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(03-09-2017, 12:29 PM)David Horn Wrote:
(03-08-2017, 09:11 PM)Odin Wrote: Great article I ran into in The Atlantic: Trump Has Caused a Civic Surge in America

Quote:... The surge will likely outlast his presidency. Americans today are rushing to make up for decades of atrophy and neglect in civic education and engagement. But as they do so it’s important to remember that citizenship is about more than know-how. It’s also about “know-why”—the moral purposes of self-government...

And this is the crux of the issue.  The populace is no longer mediated by a self-assigned coterie of gatekeepers, so the information comes directly to each of us without the benefit of analysis or even basic fact checking.  Some of us will take the time to fact check, and some from that group will go further and do the research to understand the information.  The rest will operate on emotion and instinct.  That may work eventually, but the process of getting there will certainly be messy or even dangerous.  Let's hope it isn't existential.

It isn't existential.  The simple fact of the matter is that the means of generating and reproducing news has changed.  We've been through this before, back when the Printing Press was invented.  It caused some chaos for a while but eventually Liberal Democracies arose and solved the problem.  I imagine that eventually there will be a move to push for direct democracy now that we have near instantaneous global communication.

Of course tyrants like Stalin and Saddam quickly got hold of the printing presses and ensured that the only people who got to use them (in the case of Saddam it was a serious crime to be in possession of even a typewriter without the express permission of the State) could tell exactly what the Leader wanted to be said.

Resistance toward the Personality Cult of Donald Trump has begun.

Quote:As for the Altantic article itself....Read it, concluded it was projection.  It is what the so-called gate keepers want to believe.  It isn't true though, don't let the fringe left fool you.

As for PBR's poll.  Polls are not very accurate.  How many claimed Trump had no chance yet who is writing the executive orders today?  Polls without methodologies are meaningless.

Donald Trump told millions of people what they wanted to hear and has since reneged upon what he let many believe about him. Our would-be dictator... and using Executive Orders to get around Congress and the Courts is dictatorial...has been taking stands likely to enrich people close to him at the expense of the rest of us.

Polls are imprecise (which is closer to reality than 'inaccurate'), and, worse, often obsolete. They can predict how some people will vote if they vote, based upon data from the time of the poll. They cannot predict who will vote, and they cannot predict trends that happen after the poll is taken. That support for anyone other than Donald Trump would significantly disappear is something that few objective people would believe until the Great Nightmare became obvious. The people who did believe it were the fervid Trump supporters.

Americans apparently are coming to believe that bigotry on ethnicity and religion are getting more severe and widespread. We are recognizing a problem that might have more radical causes (cultural polarization, flawed education) than the rashness of the current President.  The President having an approval rating in the low 40s at this stage in his term of office is without precedent.



Donald Trump's Presidential Job Approval Ratings -- Historical Comparisons 1938-2017

Average for U.S. presidents     53
Average for elected presidents' 1st quarter 63

Other presidents in March of first year
Barack Obama 62 Mar 2009

George W. Bush 58  Mar 2001

Bill Clinton 53 Mar 1993

George H.W. Bush 60 Mar 1989

Ronald Reagan 60 Mar 1981

Jimmy Carter 72 Mar 1977

Richard Nixon 64 Mar 1969

John Kennedy 73 Mar 1961

Dwight Eisenhower 74 Mar 1953

and where is the current President?

Most recent weekly average 43 Feb 27-Mar 5, 2017

http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presid...trump.aspx

Not even Ronald Reagan to convince Americans that they need higher prices, lower pay, environmental ruin, free rein to the most unscrupulous operators, and a shift of taxes from the rich to the non-rich. Reagan knew his limits; Donald Trump wants it all -- yesterday. Reagan wisely quit kicking Carter once Carter was no longer President. Trump can't quit kicking Obama.

...Disaster with a capital "D", and that rhymes with "T", and that stands for "Trump"!
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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