07-03-2017, 11:27 PM
(07-03-2017, 03:34 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(07-01-2017, 09:49 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(07-01-2017, 06:02 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: But you don't seem to deal with that level of fact. Fact seems irrelevant to you. If something is unpleasant to your world view, you will call it a lie, with absolutely no attempt to fact check.
I could be wrong, but I doubt Eric would dispute the facts. I suspect his position is that he believes the violence on the part of the left is necessary and justified, up to and including the attempted assassination of Scalise.
What Bob does is, whenever I express something he disagrees with, and disagree with him on facts, he tends to "demonize" me as someone who ALWAYS is unable to deal with facts, if they offend my cherished world view.
The NRA (or at least its current leadership; not indeed necessarily every member) deals only in lies, and no, I will not debate anyone on this topic. (and I agree with mikebert's statements above about them; bravo!)
No, I don't think violence is justified-- unless, when a nation or its allies are under attack, it MIGHT be; or police restraining criminals in a lawful manner (sadly, often not the case today especially in black neighborhoods). No, I did not approve of the attempted assassination of Scalise, and I prayed for his recovery. I DO hope that he and others of his ilk are voted out of office. A faint hope in his case.
Interesting. So where do you draw the line?
- Do you object to protesters who beat people up who are trying to enter a Trump rally?
- Do you object to protesters who prevent Milo whatshisname from speaking by breaking windows and burning cars?
- Do you object to protesters who block interstate highways to try to get more news coverage?
If none of these, how do you think the crisis will be resolved?