The Maelstrom of Violence

[Kinser79]

(08-16-2017, 04:03 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(08-16-2017, 09:14 AM)beechnut79 Wrote: On the old forum I had posed the question of what event might be a trigger for this 4T as Harper's Ferry was to the Civil War 4T. Could the events in Charlottesville this past weekend be the one? After all, they both occurred within the same state.

I'd suggest a trigger in a military crisis would be the event that sends a lot of young to the recruiting center.  In the Civil War, by that standard, Fort Sumter would be the trigger.  Modern Charlottesville would not be.

But there are 'catalyst' events and markers which escalate tensions and demonstrate how some people feel about issues without being the immediate cause of open conflict.  Modern Charlottesville, Harper's Ferry and the election of Lincoln could easily be given the catalyst tag.  Generally, you don't get to the trigger without a number of catalysts first.

2005:  Katrina demonstrates that the government, at least the federal one is ineffective at responding to natural disaster.
2008-2012:  Economic crisis demonstrates that Keynesian economics can't address the economy.
2010-2016:  Break down of the Boomer political order.
2016:  Election of Trump can be likened to the election of Lincoln.  Indeed being that he's over 70 he perfectly fits the gray champion expectation.  I would liken Obama to at best a Buchanan figure.  The unrest if it doesn't erupt into civil war will ensure that he's a two termed president.

You want to find a Harper's Ferry?  I would suggest to you that Pulse filled that role.  After all I can't tell you how many gay men I know who were going to go third party (they didn't like HRC anyway but voting GOP was unthinkable) until that happened.  When the I-4 corridor goes red the Dims are in trouble.