08-18-2017, 08:16 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-18-2017, 08:00 PM by Bob Butler 54.)
Kinser came up with an interesting set of events, some of which could clearly be catalysts, but the spin he puts on them is extremely partisan. I suppose mine might be considered so too. Anyway...
Bush 43 organized a bunch of agencies to fight terror, including many whose primary task had been handling natural disaster. Yes, catalyst. I'm not sure 'the government' should be blamed or one particular administration. Bush 43 had a lot of fingers pointed his way.
That depends on your spin. I blame much of the disaster on the unraveling memes rather than Keynes. The collapse was set up during the Bush 43 administration. Catalyst? Sure. It ought to have been.
Obama spent a lot of political capitol on health care, and failed to punish Wall Street executives. He lost Congress and the ability to push any sort of real agenda. Catalyst? I'm not sure. Most catalysts are shorter and sharper. I'm not sure 'break down of the Boomer political order' is a reasonable way to describe it. We've got two cultures on a see saw. The see saw did what see saws do. Even then, Obama got his second term.
Between Trump's lack of people skills resulting in a dysfunctional White House, his popularity numbers crashing, and the coastal media making a target out of him, he seems more apt to be a one term president than a culture altering positive icon. I anticipate he'll flip the see saw. Catalyst? His early term has certainly been sharp and eventful. I'm having trouble putting my finger on a clear lesson learned, though. No protest presidents? Competence counts? Too soon to judge the results.
(08-18-2017, 07:14 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: 2005: Katrina demonstrates that the government, at least the federal one is ineffective at responding to natural disaster.
Bush 43 organized a bunch of agencies to fight terror, including many whose primary task had been handling natural disaster. Yes, catalyst. I'm not sure 'the government' should be blamed or one particular administration. Bush 43 had a lot of fingers pointed his way.
(08-18-2017, 07:14 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: 2008-2012: Economic crisis demonstrates that Keynesian economics can't address the economy.
That depends on your spin. I blame much of the disaster on the unraveling memes rather than Keynes. The collapse was set up during the Bush 43 administration. Catalyst? Sure. It ought to have been.
(08-18-2017, 07:14 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: 2010-2016: Break down of the Boomer political order.
Obama spent a lot of political capitol on health care, and failed to punish Wall Street executives. He lost Congress and the ability to push any sort of real agenda. Catalyst? I'm not sure. Most catalysts are shorter and sharper. I'm not sure 'break down of the Boomer political order' is a reasonable way to describe it. We've got two cultures on a see saw. The see saw did what see saws do. Even then, Obama got his second term.
(08-18-2017, 07:14 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: 2016: Election of Trump can be likened to the election of Lincoln. Indeed being that he's over 70 he perfectly fits the gray champion expectation. I would liken Obama to at best a Buchanan figure. The unrest if it doesn't erupt into civil war will ensure that he's a two termed president.
Between Trump's lack of people skills resulting in a dysfunctional White House, his popularity numbers crashing, and the coastal media making a target out of him, he seems more apt to be a one term president than a culture altering positive icon. I anticipate he'll flip the see saw. Catalyst? His early term has certainly been sharp and eventful. I'm having trouble putting my finger on a clear lesson learned, though. No protest presidents? Competence counts? Too soon to judge the results.
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