The Maelstrom of Violence

[Eric the Green]

(08-29-2017, 08:45 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(08-29-2017, 10:36 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(08-29-2017, 10:16 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:

(08-28-2017, 10:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Not equally evil, because antifa seeks to stop fascism before it starts. We have no idea what kind of government antifa would institute. But yes both are wrong because they are too violent and lawless.

Actually we have a very good idea, since their goal is to 'destroy capitalism' and they fly anarchocommunist flags.  Stalinism is at the end of that road.  They might not be exactly equal - Stalin killed several times more people than Hitler - but they're on the same level.

They aren't even close.  Marxist-Leninists look at the Antifa crowd and laugh.  They are at most useful idiots for the Stalinists who follow in their wake, and they are always the first to the Gulags after the revolution.

Sure.  That's why I say "Stalinism is at the end of that road", rather than it being their goal.  They don't think they're Stalinists, but they pave the road for the Stalinists.

Actually, kinser is closer to the truth on that one. Fascists using antifa as an excuse to take power is the danger. There is no viable communist party that could benefit from an antifa movement in the USA. Antifa's tactics are not just violent though; they actually prefer non-violence from what I'm reading; it's just that sometimes they get violent, usually when provoked. That's enough for the right-wing to use in their propaganda, and for the great mass of fools who believe it. I'm not sure if the "black bloc" is part of antifa or not, but it's often been those guys who smash things or hit people sometimes, rather than antifa per se.