The Maelstrom of Violence

[Kinser79]

(08-30-2017, 11:46 AM)Warren Dew Wrote: I don't think 1. would have to be by an established Marxist-Leninist party.  Some charismatic person who is either part of the movement or who had influence and wants to take advantage of the movement would be sufficient.  Even some factions of the Democratic party might work.

I agree that 2. is also a possibility, especially if the press keeps pushing the alt Right toward white nationalism.

As of yet no successful leftist revolution has occured in the absence of leadership by an ML party. I suspect the discipline of democratic centeralism is required to pull it off. Should the left gain ground, an unlikely event, at most we'll see a Spanish Civil War scenario being set up.

As for 2 it isn't just the Alt-Right, which I identify as right wing racial identitarians. According to Antifa anyone to the right of Mao is a fascist. Considering that includes just about everyone except open communists (and a few of them too, actually) a charismatic leader on the right is likely to appear.

Indeed the main reason why Hitler became Chancellor, and the NSDAP won major electoral victories in the early 1930s was because the population grew tired of the reds and the browns fighting in the street. One side had to be eliminated, and given the choice folks picked brown because they were more likely to be able to keep their private property.

As I've said before, fascism only really rises when there is a credible threat to capitalism by communism. That threat isn't arising. Neo-conservatism (IE Trotskyism masquerading as something right-wing) has been discredited. Neo-Liberalism is also discredited. Civic Nationalism is an out growth of bourgeois liberalism itself, so isn't a threat to capitalism.