The Maelstrom of Violence

[Kinser79]

(09-14-2017, 06:53 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(09-14-2017, 06:24 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:

(09-10-2017, 09:07 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: As I'm seeing it, there are some countries that make it harder to insult and demean.  The conservatives seem to get themselves all worked up emotionally if they can't insult and demean.

I would argue that being insulting and demeaning is a requirement for having freedom of speech.  Some people actually deserve it you know.

Negative rights traditionally do not convey a right to harm.  I don't see the exception.

I do confess a desire to lock extreme partisans in a room together and let them have at it.  However, the absolute style of insulting and demeaning sought by some of the alt right has no limits on targets.  They seem to be seeking to insult and demean for their own sake.  This is not a good way to run a culture.

So you prefer to let the "Lets punch Nazis" crowd run wild then?  Mind you, the alt-left pretty much calls anyone to the right of Mao a Nazi.  The Alt-Right you fear does not exist in a vacuum, it is rather a creation of a left that has run amuck since the 1960s.

As for negative rights, one either has the right to freely speak, which includes being insulting--for example me calling someone an ignoramus is protected speech--or one does not.  If one cannot insult an other, then one cannot truly be said to have freedom of speech.

As for running society, I'm not much interested in having society run by anyone--particularly the government--rather if left to its own devices an equilibrium will arise.  It always does.