01-11-2021, 11:33 PM
(01-11-2021, 08:46 PM)pbrower2a Wrote: Again, Classic X'er, your definition of what constitutes belief in America or identity as an American. Of all the great empires in history (and I refer to scale and power, and the US as the Empire of Liberty stacks up to all of those empires as rather imposing in power, durability, scale, and influence) less defines what makes one an American than any other. "American" does not imply any race, ethnicity, or religion. It does not imply any particular ideology. One can be a Ku Klux Klansman and an American or a Black Panther and an American (yuck -- but that is the truth!)Is the Democratic population free these days? How much power and authority does the Democratic party have over you and most of its base these days? Let's see, it spent months scaring its base into submission to the point where it was afraid to be vaccinated for Christ's sake. Mrs. Obama looked dumbfounded when she was asked by a reporter about that problem and what they planned to do to fix that problem. Whatever, you made your own choice which was the only choice that someone like you have these days.
I remember one of your earlier incarnations telling someone to commit suicide, which is unconscionable. I took it up with the moderator and even suggested that you would be accepted if you repudiated and apologized for that statement. There are people in extreme depression or panic, and telling someone potentially suicidal on a ledge to jump would be cause for arrest. Maybe I am excessively literal about something like that, but you must assume that there are people who take every word literally. As that goes, one profession does take every word literally -- and that is the legal profession.
By narrowing what it means to be an American in good standing, one simultaneously takes away liberty... and if the narrowing should be enough, then we simply have a Big Bad Evil Empire.
Donald Trump is disgraced as no President in history. We have had failures, but no President has ever sought to nullify an election in favor of himself or a successor. Note well: one of the most reliable means of establishing a dictatorship is to nullify an election. We accept electoral results that we dislike but cannot disprove (there would have to be very strong evidence of electoral fraud, such as masses of ballots discarded floating down a river that seem marked contrary to the result) or we accept whatever some leader says that the vote was.
Events of January 6 look more like the Bolsheviks storming the Winter Palace in 1917 than they do like anything that we have ever seen in American history. Note well: there was an election for the Russian Constituent Assembly, but Vladimir Lenin nullified the vote that he lost because the 'wrong' people won. At that point the Soviet dictatorship began.
I'm not accusing you, of course, of being a Commie. That is not your ideology. Yours better resembles that of Augusto Pinochet... but his regime was a soul-crushing as any Commie regime except that of the Khmer Rouge.
As far as the situation that took place between us many years ago, you took what I said to someone else literally when you should have recognized it as a sarcastic bluff like most everyone else did at the time. Any how, what you guys did didn't matter in the greater scheme of things and the way things eventually turned out. I had an issue with a moderator upholding and applying a double standard. I basically used you to get to him and remove him. I was posting as the process of removing him was going on. You played a significant a role in that particular task at the time. My ideology is the same as Abe Lincoln, Ike, JFK, MLK, Reagan, Trump and most of the judges in the Supreme Court. I assume that you must be familiar with Classical Liberalism. According to my daughter, they're still teaching it to people her age in school today.
The event that took place on Jan 6th was a demonstration of willingness and capability and that's about it. You are over exaggerating the intent and significance again as usual.