The Maelstrom of Violence

[Classic-Xer]

(01-17-2021, 01:27 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-17-2021, 12:10 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-16-2021, 05:17 PM)mamabug Wrote:

(01-16-2021, 10:28 AM)David Horn Wrote: This is a bit rich considering the source of 99% of the disinformation out there.  FB was a RW cesspool, far more than one used by the left, and it still continues to a great extent.  It's been well documented that FB algorithms reward extremism, and the "influencers" on the right were often driven to the extremes just to get Likes and Reposts.

I thought two wrongs didn't make a right?  All social media touching on politics is a cesspool.  It also gives a distorted view of reality given that less than 2% of people are active in anything beyond posting pics of their kids, pets, and vacations.  I also hold it responsible for the devolution of journalism as it promotes a 'click bait' approach to headlines and ratings as well as increases the feeling of urgency to get something out without vetting.  It's been a long time since serious, reflective, investigative journalism was really rewarded.  

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mamabug Wrote:But, I could be wrong, and I'm sure the lovey surveillance state we live in will soon reveal the truth.

I agree that this was planned and executed by professionals of one sort, or perhaps, many.  Transparency, on the other hand, is not all that great.  Actually, if this was the UK,, I would agree, but it's not.  We aren't bathed in video cameras like London (~25,000 the last time I was there).  For al;l the whining about loss of freedom, we maintain a lot of privacy here -- possibly to our detriment in this case.  Still, privacy is extremely important, and should be violated only under extreme circumstances.

Technologically, they have the ability to grab info about every cell phone that may have hit the congressional wi-fi or pinged off nearby towers.  4th amendment rights are the only thing preventing them from doing a pull of the data and tracking people down that way - but I wouldn't place any bets on that.  Libertarians have known since Snowden that law enforcement pulls the data first to build their suspect pool then finds ways to circumvent 'fruit of the poisonous tree' by building a case around them as if it came from other sources.   I'd be very surprised if the FBI didn't already have a list in their hands that, legally, they are not allowed to have but which we will never know about.

Maybe that's the reason why the Democrats and a few Republican allies are in such a big hurry to fully impeach Trump without due process and his right to run for President again in 2024. I mean, if it was already planned in advance without Trumps knowledge, Trump would be off the hook for inciting it. The Democrats have not been playing by the rules for quite a while now as a portion of the GOP hasn't done much/said much about it. From what I've learned over many years, the Left doesn't play fair or play nice either. So, there's is going to have to be a major shift taken by the American Right. It's pretty clear to me, the politicians and beltway folks aren't ready for what's coming and will find themselves having to choose sides. I hope they're smart.

Negligence, Classic X'er... it's negligence. President Trump gave a mealy-mouthed call for the insurrection to stop, but he still told the lie to his backers that they had been cheated. The criteria under which the 2020 Presidential election was a cheat has inadequate  evidence behind it. We have rules for deciding who wins elections, and those entail official counts by people with responsibility only for the integrity of the process.

I think its pretty obvious that the Democrats cheated by illegally changing state election laws in some key battleground states. So, the Democrats basically cheated them and cheated Trump. The law pertaining to changing state election laws written in the Constitution is crystal clear. It's to late for a do over at this point. The Supreme Court will eventually have to accept the case and declare what was done as unconstitutional to preserve the union and maintain order/peace. The Democrats pulled a fast one as we say. Government systems are known to be slow to respond with all the protocols and since there was no precedence and nothing like it ever occurred before there was no way to respond to it or stop it by the governors because that would require legislative action which isn't known to be fast either.

Like I said, there's a set time frame (a traditional date) for determining outcomes and transition if necessary and there was lives/integrity at stake The Supreme Court had three Trump appointed judges which doesn't look good and information was released about preparations that were underway for large scale violence to occur in several cities if Trump won. So, the Supreme Court passed on the opportunity to over turn an election that was more or less illegal and rigged in favor of the Democrats. Judges are human too. Do you do something that pisses off a bunch of barbarians or do something that angers more civilized Americans? You're lucky we're more tolerant than those on the Left and we have more faith in the American justice system to make things things right eventually, we could already be at war and free to kill/terrorize Democrats by thousands right now. In my opinion, you picked the wrong time in history for illegal shenanigans, a mentally incompetent President and a token VP and a House full of insecure and incompetent people pretending to be politicians and a Senate filled with them too. It's going to be a political train wreck dude.