The Maelstrom of Violence

[Classic-Xer]

(01-17-2021, 12:28 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-17-2021, 03:39 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(01-17-2021, 01:27 AM)pbrower2a Wrote:

(01-17-2021, 12:10 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: Maybe that's the reason why the Democrats and a few Republican allies are in such a big hurry to fully impeach Trump without due process and his right to run for President again in 2024. I mean, if it was already planned in advance without Trumps knowledge, Trump would be off the hook for inciting it. The Democrats have not been playing by the rules for quite a while now as a portion of the GOP hasn't done much/said much about it. From what I've learned over many years, the Left doesn't play fair or play nice either. So, there's is going to have to be a major shift taken by the American Right. It's pretty clear to me, the politicians and beltway folks aren't ready for what's coming and will find themselves having to choose sides. I hope they're smart.

Negligence, Classic X'er... it's negligence. President Trump gave a mealy-mouthed call for the insurrection to stop, but he still told the lie to his backers that they had been cheated. The criteria under which the 2020 Presidential election was a cheat has inadequate  evidence behind it. We have rules for deciding who wins elections, and those entail official counts by people with responsibility only for the integrity of the process.

I think its pretty obvious that the Democrats cheated by illegally changing state election laws in some key battleground states. So, the Democrats basically cheated them and cheated Trump. The law pertaining to changing state election laws written in the Constitution is crystal clear. It's to late for a do over at this point. The Supreme Court will eventually have to accept the case and declare what was done as unconstitutional to preserve the union and maintain order/peace. The Democrats pulled a fast one as we say. Government systems are known to be slow to respond with all the protocols and since there was no precedence and nothing like it ever occurred before there was no way to respond to it or stop it by the governors because that would require legislative action which isn't known to be fast either.

Like I said, there's a set time frame (a traditional date) for determining outcomes and transition if necessary and there was lives/integrity at stake The Supreme Court had three Trump appointed judges which doesn't look good and information was released about preparations that were underway for large scale violence to occur in several cities if Trump won. So, the Supreme Court passed on the opportunity to over turn an election that was more or less illegal and rigged in favor of the Democrats. Judges are human too. Do you do something that pisses off a bunch of barbarians or do something that angers more civilized Americans? You're lucky we're more tolerant than those on the Left and we have more faith in the American justice system to make things things right eventually, we could already be at war and free to kill/terrorize Democrats by thousands right now. In my opinion, you picked the wrong time in history for illegal shenanigans, a mentally incompetent President and a token VP and a House full of insecure and incompetent people pretending to be politicians and a Senate filled with them too. It's going to be a political train wreck dude.

Let's get this clear. COVID-19 was a threat to the integrity of the election. Had some militia put itself in a position in which to intimidate voters or potential voters, then some sort of law enforcement would have been expected to clear that militia. Allowing people to vote safely is appropriate.  So more people voted... how do we know that people would have still voted in person on Election Day had it not been for COVID-19?

The election laws were changed in other states. In some states the change went (as in Michigan) from allowing the use of an absentee ballot for  certain categories of voters. Examples of excuses before 2020 were

(1) being over 60
(2) being out of town due to requirements of the job
(3) being in jail while under arrest facing charges but not yet convicted
(4) being a poll watcher or working at the election
(5) religious rules that prohibit in-person voting on Election Day
(6) under care in a nursing home or hospital
(7) incarcerated for a misdemeanor for which one does not lose voting rights

The danger of COVID-19 became a legitimate cause to vote absentee. COVID-19 was going to scare people away from voting at the polling place. 

So more people vote than was normal? That happens some years, especially when one of the nominees is catastrophically inept or is charismatic. You need to recognize that Donald Trump got a chance to show what he would be like as President, and 81 million people voted for the Other Guy. 

The changes made were largely by state legislatures, and typically had bipartisan support. I expect more states to go to postal voting as time goes on. Such is so in strongly-D Oregon and strongly-R Utah.  The changes were made to ensure that more people could vote. 

Should those changes remain in place in 2022 and 2024 they will pass Constitutional muster.  Removing them will be trickier.

Lets be clear, the Left undermined the entire political/electoral process and made a big mess and further weakened the integrity of the entire system that most of them are reliant upon one way or another. Yes, the changes and the illegality associated with Biden/Harris election could be swept under the rug/covered up and pass Constitutional muster if the Democrats were to expose their guilt of association/involvement by doing as they threatened/promised and eliminating the filibuster and pack the court with Obama minded judges and cause more violence and place their own lives at even more risk than today. Dude, America is going to turn against the Democrats and when it does there isn't anything the dip shits in power can do to stop it. American troops will join with the American side.

Keep in mind, I don't care if you're forced to vacate and starve or freeze to death or decide to off yourself or are assassinated or executed by American revolutionaries. The American Revolutionaries weren't nice to the Tories or the British army or the British governors. I can see that you have a devious mind  and you are able to rationalize and go along with criminal/unlikable/unthinkable activity as a means to serve your own interests. Well, that's fine with me, it helps to build a moral case for the removal of all of you by all/any means possible and strengthens ability to do so with a clean conscience and garner the full support of millions upon millions of more traditional minded Americans. Welcome to the 4T.