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Let's make fun of Trump, bash him, etc. while we can!
I am kind of inclined to agree at least partially with Africa being "shit hole countries." I can at the very least say that for sure for where I stayed for quite some time when I had moved to joburg. That is a literal shit hole and I have many reasons why to say that.
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(09-01-2019, 04:44 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-01-2019, 04:06 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I simply dislike bullshit so much, I even dislike it if it's used for pure entertainment. If these women were real, I'd have to say they had the same mindset like Trump and other narcissists in politics. "I'm always right, even if I'm wrong!"

Sounds like my mother and my future mother in law. Good god I hate narcs so much. They are toxic to be around and destroy people's lives. I am with you on this.

I'm wishing you the best, taramarie.
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(09-01-2019, 05:29 AM)Hintergrund Wrote:
(09-01-2019, 04:44 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(09-01-2019, 04:06 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I simply dislike bullshit so much, I even dislike it if it's used for pure entertainment. If these women were real, I'd have to say they had the same mindset like Trump and other narcissists in politics. "I'm always right, even if I'm wrong!"

Sounds like my mother and my future mother in law. Good god I hate narcs so much. They are toxic to be around and destroy people's lives. I am with you on this.

I'm wishing you the best, taramarie.

Thanks ill certainly need it with the future mother in law especially.
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(09-01-2019, 04:06 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I simply dislike bullshit so much, I even dislike it if it's used for pure entertainment. If these women were real, I'd have to say they had the same mindset like Trump and other narcissists in politics. "I'm always right, even if I'm wrong!"

Thank you for making that clear. Except for the one woman who was wrongly-convicted (the drama makes that clear)... they are all selfish, unfeeling people "He was one of those Mormons, he had six wives, and he just couldn't hold his arsenic"... The fictional Roxie Hart is no better than any of them; she is simply luckier. 

I am tempted to believe that sociopathy is an extreme expression of narcissism. Along with narcissism comes a lack of empathy, but when that lack of empathy morphs into extreme sadism all Hell breaks loose.
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I am no psychiatrist, and nobody ever taught me how to deal with madmen like those. That's the problem we all have today, in this crazy world.
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(09-06-2019, 08:11 AM)Hintergrund Wrote: I am no psychiatrist, and nobody ever taught me how to deal with madmen like those. That's the problem we all have today, in this crazy world.

When people quit tolerating mad behavior in public life...
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Trump (I think) was raised in a strict way by his father and at school. But what means "strict"? Many kids thought so about their parents. But few compare their situation to that of others, let alone objectively. Two different people might both say "I was raised in a strict way", and one of them might have been raised boot camp-style, and the other one was slapped once in his life.

I really wonder: If Trump had been slapped by his father whenever he lied - would he dare to tell bullshit later?

Compare this joke: http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...l#pid45973 )
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(09-10-2019, 06:44 PM)Hintergrund Wrote: Trump (I think) was raised in a strict way by his father and at school. But what means "strict"? Many kids thought so about their parents. But few compare their situation to that of others, let alone objectively. Two different people might both say "I was raised in a strict way", and one of them might have been raised boot camp-style, and the other one was slapped once in his life.

I really wonder: If Trump had been slapped by his father whenever he lied - would he dare to tell bullshit later?

Compare this joke: http://generational-theory.com/forum/thr...l#pid45973 )

He rebelled against the strictures as an adult and got away with it or Daddy and Mommy indulged every whim. Whichever is true matters little now. We know what he does and is.

I see two extremes which are terrible -- extremely authoritarian upbringing which makes one unable to do independent thought, and the sort of (usually) permissive upbringing that has an occasional episode of violent enforcement of the rules. 

The alternative is "authoritative" which I would have followed were I a parent: children get some leeway for self-expression and experimentation, but rules are always in place and violation of those rules will result in some shaming. Lie, and you will be exposed as a liar. Take stuff from the store and you will be brought back with the pilfered merchandise and be compelled to apologize for such. There is no need for a spanking unless one does something that can get others hurt, in which such behavior might as well have some pain involved. OK, in nature -- if you pull the tail of a cat you can expect to get scratched and bit. Attack a dog and you really get hurt.
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