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"Survivor": Millennials vs. Gen X
(10-03-2016, 04:14 PM)gabrielle Wrote: Stereotyping an entire generation as "pecuniary" is bigotry, Eric.
But I didn't do it. Why ignore what I pointed out?
Quote:  Calling a "villain" on Survivor a typical Gen Xer is bigotry.  ("Xers admire him"--which Xers would that be exactly?  What percentage of the entire Gen X population do they constitute?)
I don't know. Russell may be typical of the stereotype of the worst traits of Gen Xers. Let's put it that way. Not all, or even most Gen Xers, are like him. Or admire him. But it's certainly true that I have personally known some Gen Xers like him myself. But, I have known far more Gen Xers who were not like him. Those Boomers on the show or whom I know who were "villains," had a different style of villainy, like Richard Hatch. There are differences between the generations, and we can experience them. But no, I don't label them all one way or another. So no, I don't think it's bigotry. That's too insulting a word to throw.

Quote:It's not just you, though.  These forums are rife with bigotry.  I am beginning to believe that generational theory promotes prejudice.  I am not surprised to learn, from another thread, that the academic world has largely ignored it and that it has mainly been taken up by the business world--another gimmick used to peg their employees and market to their consumers.

There are differences. Academic approaches can't understand everything anyway. But S&H did a lot of biographical studies to determine generational traits and archetypes. It's not either or. Generations are not all the same. But noone is typical of any generation. Over-generalization is wrong, but so is under-generalization.
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(09-21-2016, 07:46 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(09-20-2016, 08:01 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
Rags Wrote:I'm not a deplorable, but I am (a) quite cynical and pecuniary man. Cool Big Grin Tongue


Eric The Green Wrote:Yes, typical Gen Xer. Will you be on the Survivor show? Maybe you could be what they call a "villain" like Russell Hantz. Then again, maybe Galen would play the role better.

http://www.therichest.com/expensive-life...-villains/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Hantz

Nope, I got: http://survivor.wikia.com/wiki/Tina_Wesson
http://www.buddytv.com/personalityquiz/s...iz=1000037

I'm not a "she" of course.

The quiz might be unreliable. It was hard to fit into the four choices many times. Your self-description was more like Russell than Tina, but you might be more like Tina. You'd never know unless you played. But Tina was very respected and quite honest; not "cynical or pecuniary." That would be Russell; he was and is those things on steroids. He's a creepy Texas oil man. Very typical of the worst Xer traits, including in the way he looks and talks.

I got Stephanie LaGrossa. I don't remember her.
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Eric The Green Wrote:Although some (probably Gen Xers) admire him as one of the greatest players, I am among those (probably Boomers or Millennials) who generally despise him and everything about him. But, it's all part of the game; it brings out the best and worst in the players.


Quote:Some Boomers like Hillary and Trump are clueless clowns.


Eric The Green Wrote:Yes, Trump is; Bush II was; Bill was not, in most respects; and Hillary is not. In time, that will likely be demonstrated.

Uh, Bill is the one who helped to get rid of Glass Steagal and did the "end welfare as we know" it thing. Hillery can't help herself in looking crooked. I mean, really, why did the DNC do everything to throw the election? Those hot emails are another thing. The stuff goes way back to the 1970's.
Shrub, no doubt clueless.
Trump, also no doubt. Mr. weather vane, probably armed and dangerous. Big Grin

There has never been a president who has not made wrong decisions. That is nothing new. A president who makes mistakes on the level of Bill Clinton is the norm, not the exception. He also did a lot of things right; that has been reviewed before here. It's up to you and others to pay attention.

There are no hot emails; there was no thrown election. All that is Republican (and leftist) flim-flam.

Quote:In short, a pox on both parties. The US has totally gone to the dogs. It's really run by the Deep State and multinats, so I'm not even sure if elections even matter any more.

Both parties are infected with a lot of pox; one far more than the other, however. Of course you know my opinion Smile Elections matter; the people make the choice, even if powerful media and multinats can lobby and advertise more than the people can. It's still up to the people to get informed and vote intelligently. If we don't, or stay home and fume, that is OUR fault, and no-one else's. If we don't stay active all year around, and let our leaders off the hook, that is OUR fault. We the people put stupid, corrupt Republicans in congress in 2010 and 2014. No-one but US did that evil deed. We the people voted twice for the shrub. That is our responsibility. Even if there was cheating in 2000, George got enough votes to make it close enough to cheat it. "We're the slaves of the phony leaders," as Pete Townshend said. It's up to us not to be fooled again and again and again.


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Quote:Stereotyping an entire generation as "pecuniary" is bigotry, Eric.
But I didn't do it. Why ignore what I pointed out?

Yes you did, see above.
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Those who are materialistic, or materialists, might not think it's bigotry to be called one.

Yes, I think Gen Xers were more materialistic in youth than boomers were in their youth. In the 3T, it was about equal. Nowadays, I'm not sure. But yes you were right, I did say "typical Gen X." Maybe over the top. But on the other hand, the idea that Gen Xers are cynical is quite a common observation. Again, if you're a cynic, that's not an insult.

And gabrielle forgets, that Rags identified himself as not a deplorable, but a cynical and pecuniary man, after I said this:

"Only when deserved. Like all generations, Xers have their good and bad points, in my opinion. Generalizing about generations "always" has its pitfalls. But I would not say that half of Gen Xers are "deplorables." "

So Rags comment was in the context of identifying himself as an Xer.

Does generational theory promote prejudice? Maybe and maybe not; depends on how you look at it. Then again, "prejudice" is more commonly applied to race, religion, sex, etc. You don't find too many people refusing to hire "boomers," "Gen Xers" or "millennials." Even though there may be age discrimination; it's not because of supposed generational traits. I've never heard of police using "Gen X profiling" in making their arrests. Lumping people in with the supposed traits of an entire generation may be over the top. Lumping views of generations in with "bigotry" is also over the top.
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Glad to see they finally voted that boatanchor CeCe off the island. She was absolutely horrid in every challenge, and is a huge part of why the GenX'ers are so depleted in this game. She had the nerve to say she was blindsided LOL. She WISH she had been blindsided! That would have meant she had at least been a threat to win LMMFAO. That was the easiest decision anyone in the game had to make. Next one should be David. He's just as bad as she was.
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I've been trying to keep up with the generational Survivor "battle" amid all the election chaos, and it's harder because the millennials are all so young and attractive, but not very buff, so it's hard to keep track of them, even though they've sucked up all the attention so far, which is natural-- good looks, youth and sex appeal sells. Lots of young surfers and hippies and high-techers among them. But even though they prevailed over the hard-bitten survivalist Gen Xers, who as usual look the part in that typical Gen X manner, in the earlier head to head generational contests, now the millennials have lost their collegiality and have turned on each other, seemingly oblivious to the generational contest and instead settling old scores. In a perfectly amiable way, of course. So much so that it's hard to remember who is who. But I'm learning gradually.

Meanwhile I have very little clue about who the Gen Xers are, and can keep track of them even less. They have been neglected on the show, and are in a position to prevail now-- thanks to the millennials lack of focus on the greater generational battle and their heedless behavior. I guess, just how in real life they fail to vote in crucial elections, taking for granted that things will just be fine. But the coming attractions segment at the end said that there would be "civil war" among the Xers now that they are in the drivers' seat, so maybe they will revert to form and turn on each other in their individualist ways.

Taylor millennial was voted off because he hoarded food, and he seemed to be happy about it; he had made some cool friends including Jay (Justin) his rival, and a girlfriend whom his millennial tribe mate Adam (I think it was) had earlier gotten voted off. So cool, hip Taylor non-chalantly went his way after the tribe had spoken, as his friend Jay only got 4 votes to his 6, and 1 (by him) for the villain Adam; Taylor's retribution plan in total ruin, as his selfish and heedless hoarding behavior was exposed in tribal council, and none of the millennials able to keep any confidences or secrets.

All in all, perhaps an expose about how screwed up all of our generations are in these times, as we face the prospect of total ruin in a potentially-failed 4T.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2016/11/16/su...-revealed/

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Adam Klein, Bret LaBelle, Jessica Lewis, Ken McNickle, David Wright, Justin Starrett, Hannah Shapiro, Chris Hammons, Taylor Stocker, Will Wahl, Sunday Burquest and Ezekiel/Zeke Smith at Tribal Council. (Monty Brinton/CBS)
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It is just a show with certain rules they must follow by. It sets them up against each other.
Kind of gross that our parents generation sees us millies as sex appeal. Gross.
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