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  Party membership and occupation
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-29-2016, 05:48 PM - Forum: General Political Discussion - No Replies

My post about the elites spurred me to look up how different occupations vote I found two useful data/visualizations one that shows a brake down of many specific occupations:
 
http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/



And another that shows how different occupations have voted over time:


http://andrewgelman.com/2008/09/07/44/


I’ll try to come up with a broader theory but looking at the business leadership subset it does look like the Capitalist Class(C-level executives) vote Republican white the Coordinator Class(HR, Marketing ect.) votes Democratic.

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  Someone needs to start printing these
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-29-2016, 11:02 AM - Forum: General Political Discussion - Replies (5)

If i had a car I'd like to put one of these on it.



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  Is Trump...
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-29-2016, 10:22 AM - Forum: General Political Discussion - Replies (3)

The first candidate to support protectionism since Herbert Hoover?

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  About Everything: Global Brexplosion!
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-29-2016, 10:19 AM - Forum: Neil Howe & The First Turning - No Replies

https://app.hedgeye.com/insights/51997-a...-brexplosi


https://app.hedgeye.com/insights/51994-a...rexplosion

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  South American Turnings
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-28-2016, 07:49 PM - Forum: Beyond America - Replies (4)

What do people think about how the turnings are aligned in South America?  It seems like Brazil and Venezuela are both in 4Ts now I’d imagine the rest of the continent is similar.

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  The Cultural Roots of Crime
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-28-2016, 05:34 PM - Forum: Theories Of History - Replies (1)

Interesting article although I don't entirely agree it:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...ource=fbia

Quote:Barry Latzer is that rare academic with both practical and theoretical knowledge of his subject matter. He prosecuted and defended accused criminals while teaching at the City University of New York graduate center and John Jay College of Criminal Justice. His new book, The Rise and Fall of Violent Crime in America, makes use of more than a century of crime statistics to sum up the wisdom of a long career studying why crime waves rise and fall. It’s a book that does not shy from the controversial, as you’ll see from our conversation...



http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arch...ource=fbia

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  Secular Cycles in England
Posted by: Mikebert - 06-28-2016, 02:01 PM - Forum: Peter Turchin's Theroies - Replies (1)

My first paper on secular cycles is finally out.

http://escholarship.org/uc/irows_cliodynamics

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  Sarkar's Theories And The Saeculum
Posted by: Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 11:41 AM - Forum: Theories Of History - Replies (7)

Prabhat Sarkar's theory of recurring "warrior," "intellectual" and "acquisitive" ages, always in that order, harmonizes perfectly with the S&H saeculum, in that each such age encompasses two S&H saecula - the current cycle's warrior age commencing at the conclusion of the Wars of the Roses and ending with the Glorious Revolution, and its ensuing intellectual age ending with the Civil War in the United States, and roughly concomitantly elsewhere.

The present acquisitive age is now in the last days of its second saeculum - so a new warrior age is slated to begin with the resolution of this 4T; and it is quite plausible that what we have been calling "modernity" will end also, forcing presumably Millennial historians to call the foregoing something else, because the new warrior age will usher in what will then be "modern."

Discuss (originally posted in the old-school Fourth Turning forum).

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  Would You Vote For The Reform Party Candidate?
Posted by: Anthony '58 - 06-28-2016, 08:08 AM - Forum: General Political Discussion - Replies (23)

And who will it be?

How about former Ohio Republican congressman Steve LaTourette (presumably no relation to Georges Gilles de la Tourette)?

Could we outdo 1860 by having a five-way screaming match?  And MSNBC was reporting the results of a poll yesterday which gave Gary Johnson and Jill Stein 16% between them.

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  thoughts on elites
Posted by: Dan '82 - 06-28-2016, 12:03 AM - Forum: Society and Culture - Replies (19)

I'm working on more thoughts about but I wanted to get this tweet out; I've been thinking a lot about different types elites and the competition between them and how it effects politics.



It’s late but I had trouble sleeping I’m sure there are uncorrected typos and I apologize for them.


By elites I’m referring to not just the top 1% but probably more like the 25-35%, I’m actually talking about what could be referred to as both the elites and the gentry.

In Boomer dominated America (meaning post 1980 and especially post 1990) the divide central divide in American politics has been between the bureaucratic and cultural/creative elites on the Democratic side and the economic elites on the Republican side.  The petite bourgeoisie has been overwhelmingly republican while people who identify culturally with the creative elites have been overwhelmingly Democratic* racial minorities have been democratic leaning to strongly democrat regardless.  Non elite whites outside of petite bourgeoisie have been split, since many whites identify with the petite bourgeoisie (especially the working class portions) and the petite bourgeoisie has a less condescending attitude towards the working can than the elites many have ended up voting Republican, those who work for the government or those in the few private sector unions that remain vote Democratic.  In the south party as determined on an entirely racial basis.

In this election Trump's support came from the petite bourgeoisie and working class republicans who revolted against the economic elites who supported establishment candidate.  On the Democratic Sanders got support from the working class white Democrats as well as millennial elite aspirants who have been shut out while Clinton got support democratic elites and blacks.
 
*For example faculty at community colleges are not part of elite but none the less fell a cultural bond with those at more prestigious universities.

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