Welcome, Guest |
You have to register before you can post on our site.
|
Online Users |
There are currently 244 online users. » 0 Member(s) | 244 Guest(s)
|
|
|
4T = 9.11.01 -> 11.04.20 |
Posted by: jleagans - 10-21-2020, 02:41 PM - Forum: Turnings
- Replies (27)
|
 |
Calling it ! (And praying for it )
9/11 turned us down a dark road of polarization and enmity amidst the Boomer cognitive decline feeding it all.
This election the millennial soldiers save democracy itself and usher in the 1T.
|
|
|
Fascism is on the ballot |
Posted by: Eric the Green - 10-10-2020, 10:04 PM - Forum: General Political Discussion
- Replies (160)
|
 |
This essay was prompted by seeing Rick Steves' program on fascism, and his warning that it can still happen here.
https://youtu.be/JU1IVW6uqM0
We now have a leader who wants to abolish democracy, and he is on the ballot. Trump is the reincarnation of Mussolini, and he is using his playbook. Trump wants to "get rid of the ballots" and install himself in power. He and his henchmen under McConnell have filled the Courts with reactionaries who will install him in power. Some of them have already restricted ballots in Wisconsin, and made qualified people pay to vote in Florida. More rulings may be coming. McConnell and Trump are now ramming through a fascist Christian ideologue onto the Supreme Court before the election so she can join 4 other reactionaries already appointed by him and Bush to install him in power.
Our new fuhrer/duce, our dear leader, has called on his brown shirts to "stand by." He has sent his goons to gas protesters in DC for a photo op, to execute a prisoner without trial in a hail of bullets, and to stoke riots in Portland and other cities. He has asked that they defend his stand to stay in power in Washington and in his White House bunker. He has called on his Attorney General not only to defend him against charges about his personal behavior, and hold him above the law in his dispute with New York, but now to explicitly arrest all his political opponents and put them in jail. "Why haven't Hillary, Obama and Biden been arrested yet?" he cries, almost sounding like Hitler who shouted "Is Paris burning yet?" in 1944.
And yet this dictator, this fascist tyrant, is still on the ballot, and currently still has 42% of deceived, angry, fearful, prejudiced Americans like Classic Xer at his beck and call, ready to march and, as Classic Xer says, wipe out all his opponents. The new fascist ideology, though it has much in common with those a century ago and others around the world today, is also uniquely American. It not only subordinates everything to the state, but conceives this state according to supposed "Americanism." It is called neo-liberalism, which has not hestitated to support dictators like Pinochet in the past, as long as they keep big business from being taxed and regulated and keep an established economic elite in power. That is the fascist goal, an untrammeled "free enterprise" system that takes away all real freedom. Only people of "good Christian character" who oppose abortion and believe in a totalitarian God above us are capable of being good capitalist Americans, who are willing and able march in lockstep with whatever their bosses command. I have described this plague in my essay on free market ideology
This neo-liberalism is largely based in racism, using it as a dog whistle or a TRUMPet to appeal to resentment against taxes for welfare for "those people" who "depend on government" and "don't work," and the neo-liberals thus encourage and stoke white supremacy. Fear of America's increasing diversity through immigration and civil rights movements is the easiest and most reliable fear and prejudice that the oligarchs and their believers can appeal to in order to get support for their all-out attack on democracy, Nature and civilization. They empower and encourage their police to kill innocent young people of color, and when these people of color and their allies object and sometimes lash out, it is the first excuse to impose martial law on everyone. Along with that is the always reliable misogyny, which they can call upon to preserve male values and keep women in subordination.
This American fascist ideology is especially anti-intellectual and against individualist thinking. Since the 1970s one of its chief goals has been to denigrate education and privatize schools. They demolish Jefferson's and Horace Mann's ideals of an informed citizenry able to attend good schools and learn civics no matter what economic class or religion you belong to, and instead insult and demean teachers and restrict their funding and their unions. More recently they have targeted America's universities, the most outstanding in the world and the source of our economic wealth and scientific prowess, as "an elite" that seeks to impose political correctness and suppress free speech. Using this phony attack, they aim to relegate our universities to oblivion and to attack, demean, insult and fire our professors. They substitute this "elite" for the real one that they support and bankroll, the real elite which seeks to put our country lock, stock and barrel under the control of a few rich plutocrats who call all the shots, and who own our congress and our government through their supreme court decisions which equate money with free speech. Using their ownership of economic power to shut down all reform in congress, and block it in our Courts and through voter suppression, American fascists increasingly allow their oligarchic leaders to impose lousy working conditions, depress wages, replace workers with robots, shut down factories, swallow up real free businesses, cut social programs, health care and safety nets, ruin the economy with unregulated speculation justified by anti-socialist slogans, despoil our environment beyond repair, keep enormous profits for themselves, and send jobs overseas. They attack the media as the enemy of the people, and eagerly get on board with rising anti-scientific conspiracy theory culture to instill substitution of fantasy for real research and data, thus furthering their own ability to deceive the people.
People must decide now whether to allow this American fascism to succeed. Are we to go the way of fascist Germany and Italy? Franco's Spain or Chile's Pinochet? Donald Trump the fascist must be defeated at the polls by the largest margin we can muster, perhaps even dwarfing previous landslides, and flip his Senate Democratic too. Trump's project of getting legislators to substitute loyal trump electors for those elected by the people must be stopped, and his Court decisions overturned if possible. His fascist project of sending his armed "poll watcher" brown shirts in MAGA hats to intimidate voters at the polls must be exposed and countered. His plan of sending his proud boys and militias to invade Washington to prop him up in power must be defeated. His new fascist supreme court must be blocked and reformed by any means necessary, and the Senate filibuster reformed, so that the people can pass the needed reforms to stop this emerging fascism, and to free our society from 40 years of trickle-down, free-market, neo-liberalism ideology which has led us to this moment of potential doom.
The people need action. It is urgent not only because of the fascist threat that could end our democracy and our republic, but the threats to our future, our safety and our prosperity that 40 years of incipient neo-liberalism has created since the charming faux-macho actor created the culture and ideology that is now out there clamouring for their new dear leader and their nation under their exclusive "God" and against "communism." The defeat of American fascism offers the momentum and the chance to build back better: to support sustainable, renewable energy and other measures to restore our climate and revitalize the Nature which restores and supports us, to jump-start our public and civics education, to create new jobs in new industries, science and health care, to unleash full prosperity by opening up our democracy and economy to all, to cure the pandemic in which Trump has imprisoned us, and to free us from division and resentment, and foster instead a new American life of openness, love, art, spirit and celebration.
It is not at all clear now that fascism (now called the Trumpist Republican Party) can be defeated and put out of power. All hands on deck, democrats and Democrats! Now and through the 2020s and beyond if necessary!
Fourteen Defining Characteristics of Fascism
https://www.bremertonschools.org/cms/lib...slides.pdf
|
|
|
Michigan plot, October 2020 |
Posted by: pbrower2a - 10-09-2020, 02:25 PM - Forum: General Political Discussion
- Replies (51)
|
 |
(taken from a rarely-read board that I tried to revive)
Literal TREASON against a state:
by: Adam Fisher
Posted: Oct 8, 2020 / 10:36 AM EDT / Updated: Oct 8, 2020 / 12:25 PM EDT
LANSING, Mich (WLNS)- 6 News has learned, State law enforcement stopped a ‘massive statewide’ plot to kidnap and kill Michigan Governor.
Six men already faces federal charges in that plot, and authorities say, they even went as far as to find and watch her vacation home and building bombs, authorities say.
A document filed in federal court Tuesday identifies the suspects as Adam Fox, Barry Croft, Ty Garbin, Kaleb Franks, Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta.
In the criminal complaint, an FBI agent wrote that talk of targeting the governor surfaced as early as June as Fox and other members of an unnamed militia met in Ohio. They were angry about Whitmer’s mandates issued in response to the coronavirus that shut down businesses.
The documents show that as conversations continued over the following months, sometimes at tactical training gatherings, a more firm plan formed.
“Fox described it as a ‘Snatch and grab, man. Grab the (expletive) Governor. Just grab the (expletive). Because that that point, we do that, dude — it’s over,’” the criminal complaint reads in part.
According to the document, the militia members talked about storming the state Capitol in Lansing and killing police officers, but Garbin shut that idea down. It was then the focus turned to the governor’s vacation home. The suspects allegedly figured out where that house was and went there Aug. 29 to scope it out.
Fox ultimately bought a Taser to use in the attack. In addition to discussing various bombings, Garbin suggested blowing up a nearby bridge in an effort to slow the police response.
The plan was to take Whitmer to Wisconsin and hold a kangaroo court trial for treason.
There was talk of actually carrying out the plan on the night of Sept. 12 and Sept. 13, but Croft thought the time was not right, so the suspects held off. They wanted to do it before the Nov. 3 election.
Fox had been staying at the Vac Shack at the intersection of S. Division Avenue and 36th Street in Grand Rapids, which was raided by the FBI Wednesday.
The store’s owner Brian Titus told News 8 he has known Fox since he was a child. He said he knew Fox was in a militia, but didn’t know how serious his anti-government opinions had gotten.
“I thought he was just trying to stand up for our constitutional rights,” Titus, clearly upset, said.
He said Fox had “changed” in the last eight months, objecting to wearing a mask because he thought it was a violation of his rights. Titus said he attended a protest of militia members at the state Capitol over the summer.
All the suspects except for Croft, who is from Delaware, are from Michigan. Harris lives in Lake Orion.
The Michigan Attorney General will Join both the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Michigan, and Eastern District of Michigan, as well as the FBI, and Michigan State Police Colonial at 1 PM to discuss the plot, and their investigation.
LANSING, Mich. (WLNS)– Happening today at 1 PM Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel will make a joint announcement with several law enforcement officials across the state.
Those officials include:
- Andrew Birge, U.S. Attorney for the Western District of Michigan
- Matthew Schneider, U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan
- Josh Hauxhurst, Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge, F.B.I.
- Michigan State Police Col. Joseph Casper
|
|
|
Sunset for Golden Dawn (Greek fascists) |
Posted by: pbrower2a - 10-07-2020, 11:06 AM - Forum: Beyond America
- Replies (3)
|
 |
ATHENS, Greece (AP) — A Greek court ruled on Wednesday that the far-right Golden Dawn party was operating as a criminal organization, delivering landmark guilty verdicts following a politically charged five-year trial against dozens of defendants.
The court ruled that seven of the 18 former lawmakers, including Nikos Michaloliakos, the head of the party which had become Greece’s third largest during the country’s financial crisis, were guilty of leading a criminal organization. The others were found guilty of participating in a criminal organization.
As news of the guilty verdicts broke, cheers and celebrations erupted among the crowd of at least 20,000 people gathered in an anti-fascist rally outside the Athens courthouse. A small group threw Molotovs and stones, with police responding with tear gas and water cannon.
The marathon trial had been assessing four cases rolled into one: the 2013 fatal stabbing of Greek rap singer Pavlos Fyssas, physical attacks on Egyptian fishermen in 2012 and on left-wing activists in 2013, and whether Golden Dawn was operating as a criminal organization.
The 68 defendants included the 18 former lawmakers from the party that was founded in the 1980s as a neo-Nazi organization and rose in prominence during the country’s decade-long financial crisis.
“It feels like a day of victory in Greece,” said Antonis Fourlis, editor-in-chief of HuffPost Greece. “It’s a great relief for all Greeks that after all the country has gone through with the economic crisis and now COVID-19, that there is still hope.”
Fourlis said ahead of the decision the leaders of Greece’s political parties all issued statements condemning Golden Dawn. “It’s a step forward for the political system. All political parties except a small far-right group are hailing the judgment, which sends Golden Dawn out of the political spectrum as criminals.”
Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis said the verdict “ends a traumatic cycle” in the country’s public life.“Its political dimension has, fortunately, been judged by the victory of democracy, which expelled the Nazi formation from Parliament (in elections),” he said. “Now, the independent judiciary is giving its own answer.”
The three-member panel of judges also found Giorgos Roupakias guilty of the murder of Fyssas, prompting applause inside the courtroom and among the crowd outside. Roupakias had been accused of being a party supporter who delivered the fatal stab wounds to Fyssas. Another 15 defendants — none of them former lawmakers — were convicted as accomplices.
“The ruling demonstrates that they were just a gang of knife-wielding thugs who took their orders from the top,” said Thanassis Kambayiannis, one of the lawyers representing the fishermen.
After the verdicts, defense lawyers began summations ahead of sentencing, a process that could last several days. Those convicted of leading a criminal organization face up to 15 years in prison, while the others face up to 10 years. Roupakias faces a life sentence.
“Today marks a huge victory for justice and respect for Greece and the entire world,” Eva Cosse, Greece researcher at Human Rights Watch, told The Assoicated Press. “It sends a strong message that hate crimes are not and should not be tolerated in a democratic society.”
Excerpted.
|
|
|
Report: $2 TRILLION in money laundering |
Posted by: pbrower2a - 09-25-2020, 04:12 PM - Forum: Economics
- Replies (2)
|
 |
People do not launder money for the fun of it. They do so to hide assets, evade taxes, or make criminal income (as through drugs, embezzlement, and various forms of fraud).
Quote:Thousands of documents detailing $2 trillion (£1.55tn) of potentially corrupt transactions that were washed through the US financial system have been leaked to an international group of investigative journalists.
The leak focuses on more than 2,000 suspicious activity reports (SARs) filed with the US government’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN).
Banks and other financial institutions file SARs when they believe a client is using their services for potential criminal activity.
However, the filing of an SAR does not require the bank to cease doing business with the client in question.
The documents were provided to BuzzFeed News, which shared them with the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists.
Advertisement
The documents are said to suggest major banks provided financial services to high-risk individuals from around the world, in some cases even after they had been placed under sanctions by the US government.
According to the ICIJ the documents relate to more than $2tn of transactions dating from between 1999 and 2017.
One of those named in the SARs is Paul Manafort, a political strategist who led Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential election campaign for several months.
He stepped down from the role after his consultancy work for former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych was exposed, and he was later convicted of fraud and tax evasion.
According to the ICIJ, banks began flagging activity linked to Manafort as suspicious beginning in 2012. In 2017 JP Morgan Chase filed a report on wire transfers worth over $300m involving shell companies in Cyprus that had done business with Manafort.
The ICIJ said Manafort’s lawyer did not respond to an invitation to comment.
A separate report details over $1bn in wire transfers by JP Morgan Chase that the bank later came to suspect were linked to Semion Mogilevich, an alleged Russian organised crime boss who is named on the FBI’s top 10 most wanted list.
A JP Morgan Chase spokesperson told the BBC: “We follow all laws and regulations in support of the government’s work to combat financial crimes. We devote thousands of people and hundreds of millions of dollars to this important work.”
According to BBC Panorama, the British bank HSBC allowed a group of criminals to transfer millions of dollars from a Ponzi scheme through its accounts, even after it had identified their fraud.
HSBC said in a statement: “Starting in 2012, HSBC embarked on a multi-year journey to overhaul its ability to combat financial crime across more than 60 jurisdictions.” It added: “HSBC is a much safer institution than it was in 2012.”
In a statement released earlier this month FinCEN condemned the disclosure of the leaked documents and said it had referred the matter to the US Department of Justice.
“The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network is aware that various media outlets intend to publish a series of articles based on unlawfully disclosed suspicious activity reports (SARs), as well as other sensitive government documents, from several years ago,” it stated.
“As FinCEN has stated previously, the unauthorised disclosure of SARs is a crime that can impact the national security of the United States, compromise law enforcement investigations, and threaten the safety and security of the institutions and individuals who file such reports.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020...l-activity
Filed Under Criminal Knowledge!
(The acronym should be obvious).
|
|
|
The 4T Generational Constellations - Red v Blue |
Posted by: sbarrera - 09-21-2020, 10:12 PM - Forum: Turnings
- Replies (68)
|
 |
In their turnings theory, the authors bring up the idea of the "Generational Constellation" - all the generations together in their different phases of life, each generation bringing its collective peer personality into that phase of life, all interacting to create the social mood of the turning. In the Fourth Turning, the constellation consists of visionary elder Prophets, pragmatic mid-life Nomads, heroic young adult Heroes and suffocated child Artists.
And then there is this Fourth Turning, with its deep partisan divide and uncompromising, all or nothing politics. As we come up to what is likely to be a contested election, I recall the contested election of twenty years ago, which was around when we started hearing the terms "red zone" and "blue zone" to describe, respectively, the conservative and liberal sides of the political split. Since that divide is so entrenched now, I am led to believe that we actually have two different generational constellations - one red, and the other blue.
I'm just going to leave out the Artist generation and think about who the stereotypical people are who belong to each of the two constellations.
Red Zone Constellation
Prophets - fundamentalist leaders, Covid-denying governors, Trump supporters glued to Fox News
Nomads - paunchy militia members, anti-maskers, Karens caught on viral video
Heroes - Charlottesville marchers, Proud Boys, 4chan & r/the_donald
Blue Zone Constellation
Prophets - embattled journalists, postmodern academics, Covid-aware governors
Nomads - hipster Dads, social media Moms, pandemic managers
Heroes - wokesters, #BLM protesters, antifa
Consider that Heroes of both stripes are coming out en masse, goaded by their respective media machines, and some are dying for their side of the conflict. Two constellations at war.
I've been a little glib in my descriptions and would love to hear more ideas.
|
|
|
My Specific Presidential Generation Range (s) Theory |
Posted by: Cocoa_Puff - 09-21-2020, 05:24 PM - Forum: Generations
- Replies (10)
|
 |
Range 1:
Silent Generation - born from March 29, 1929-April 12, 1945, a.k.a. About half of C/O 1947-Majority of C/O 1963 (roughly 1929-1944)
Born when Herbert Hoover and Franklin D. Roosevelt were president of the United States, and were adults after the war, during '50s America, and by the time JFK was assassinated.
Baby Boomers - born from April 12, 1945-November 22, 1963, a.k.a. About half of C/O 1963-Older members of C/O 1982 (roughly 1945-1963)
Born when Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy were in the White House, after FDR passed away but before JFK's assassination. They came of age in the '60s, '70s, and very early '80s in a tumultuous period.
Generation X - born from November 22, 1963-January 20, 1981, a.k.a. Majority of C/O 1982-About half of C/O 1999 (roughly 1964-1980)
Born after the assassination of JFK during the Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon-Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter administrations before Ronald Reagan entered office. They came of age in the '80s and '90s during the AIDS epidemic, Challenger explosion, Cold War, OKC bombing, etc.
Millennials - born from January 20, 1981-January 20, 2001, a.k.a. More than half of C/O 1999-About half of C/O 2019 (roughly 1981-2000)
Born after Ronald Reagan entered office during the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations before George W. Bush entered office. They came of age in the first two decades of the 21st century during 9/11, War on Iraq, Hurricane Katrina, Great Recession, 2016 election, etc.
Generation Z - born from January 20, 2001-January 20, 2017, a.k.a. More than half of C/O 2019-About half of C/O 2035 (roughly 2001-2016)
Born after Bush entered office during the Bush and Obama presidencies before Donald Trump entered the White House (Trump babies and beyond are definitely Gen Alpha). They are currently coming of age and growing up right now during the coronavirus pandemic (their first major coming-of-age event) onward.
Range 2:
Greatest Generation - born from April 12, 1927 and earlier, a.k.a. Majority of C/O 1945 and earlier (roughly 1926 and earlier)
Born during the Calvin Coolidge (and any other preceeding president) administration and came of age during the Franklin D. Roosevelt (and any other preceeding president) administration, during the Roaring 20's, Great Depression, and WWII.
Silent Generation - born from April 12, 1927-November 22, 1945, a.k.a. About half of C/O 1945-Older members of C/O 1964 (roughly 1927-1945)
Came of age when Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, and John F. Kennedy were in the White House, after FDR passed away and generally after WWII ended but before JFK's assassination. Born in the later end of Calvin Coolidge's, Herbert Hoover's, Franklin D. Roosevelt's, and the very beginning of Harry S. Truman's presidencies.
Baby Boomers - born from November 22, 1945-January 20, 1963, a.k.a. Majority of C/O 1964-About half of C/O 1981 (roughly 1946-1962)
Came of age after the assassination of JFK during the Lyndon B. Johnson, Richard Nixon-Gerald Ford, and Jimmy Carter administrations before Ronald Reagan entered office. Born during the Truman, Eisenhower, and JFK presidencies.
Generation X - born from January 20, 1963-January 20, 1983, a.k.a. More than half of C/O 1981-About half of C/O 2001 (roughly 1963-1982)
Came of age after Ronald Reagan entered office during the Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Clinton administrations before George W. Bush entered office, also during the prosperous '80s and '90s decades. Born during the JFK, LBJ, Nixon-Ford, Carter, and Reagan presidencies.
Millennials - born from January 20, 1983-January 20, 1999 or 2003, a.k.a. More than half of C/O 2001-About half of C/O 2017 or 2021 (roughly 1983-1999 or 1983-2002)
Came of age after Bush entered office during the Bush and Obama presidencies, and maybe even Donald Trump's first term (if he loses this year's election) but definitely before Biden or Donald Trump's second term. Born during the Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and possibly the early Bush Jr. administration.
Generation Z - born from January 20, 1999-TBD or January 20, 2003-TBD, a.k.a. More than half of C/O 2017 or 2021-TBD (roughly 1999-TBD or 2003-TBD)
Came of age at Trump's presidency at the earliest or is going to come of age during the Biden presidency.
To sum both of these ranges up:
Indisputable members of the Greatest Generation - born from April 11, 1927 and earlier (roughly 1926 and earlier)
Full birth years = 1926 and earlier
Cuspers of the Greatest and Silent Generation - born from April 12, 1927-March 29, 1929 (roughly 1927-1928)
Full birth year = 1928
Absolute peak of the cusp = sometime around March-April 1928
Indisputable members of Silent Generation - born from March 30, 1929-April 11, 1945 (roughly 1929-1944)
Full birth years = 1930-1944
Absolute peak of the generation = sometime around March-April 1937
Cuspers of the Silent and Baby Boomer Generation - born from April 12-November 22, 1945 (roughly 1945)
No full birth years
Absolute peak of the cusp = sometime around July-August 1945
Indisputable members of the Baby Boomer Generation - born from November 23, 1945-January 19, 1963 (roughly 1946-1962)
Full birth years = 1946-1962
Absolute peak of the generation (numerically) = sometime around June 1954
Absolute peak of the generation = IMO August 9, 1956 (they came of age the day of the crossover between Nixon resigning and Ford being sworn in, and they are what I would consider to be the most stereotypical Baby Boomer presidents (going by Boomer "coming-of-age"), while LBJ was an early Baby Boomer president and Carter was a late Baby Boomer president.
Cuspers of Baby Boomers and Generation X - born from January 20-November 22, 1963 (roughly 1963)
No full birth years
Absolute peak of the cusp = June 21, 1963
Indisputable members of Generation X - born from November 23, 1963-January 19, 1981 (roughly 1964-1980)
Full birth years = 1964-1980
Absolute peak of the generation (numerically) = sometime around June 1972
Absolute peak of the generation = IMO August 9, 1974 (they were born the day of the crossover between Nixon resigning and Ford being sworn in, and they are what I would consider to be the most stereotypical Gen X presidents (going by Gen X birth dates), while LBJ was an early Gen X president and Carter was a late Gen X president.
Cuspers of Generation X and the Millennial Generation - born from January 20, 1981-January 20, 1983 (roughly 1981-1982)
Full birth year = 1982
Absolute peak of the cusp = January 20, 1982
Indisputable members of the Millennial Generation - born from either January 21, 1983-January 19, 1999 or 2001 (roughly 1983-1998 or 1983-2000)
Full birth years = 1984-1998 or 1984-2000
Absolute peak of the generation = January 20, 1991 or 1992, combining it would be July 20, 1991
Cuspers of the Millennial and Z Generation - born from either January 20, 1999-January 20, 2001 or January 20, 2001-January 20, 2003, combining both would be January 20, 1999-January 20, 2003 (roughly 1999-2000, 2001-2002, or both 1999-2002)
Full birth years = 2000 or 2002, 2000-2002 combined
Absolute peak of the cusp = January 20, 2000 or 2002, combining it would be January 20, 2001
Indisputable members of Generation Z - born from January 21, 2001-most likely approximately January 19, 2015 or 2017 or January 21, 2003-most likely approximately January 19, 2015 or 2017 (roughly 2001-2014 or 2016, or 2003-2014 or 2016)
Full birth years = 2002-2014 or 2016, or 2004-2014 or 2016
Absolute peak of the generation = January 20, 2008 or 2009, or January 20, 2009 or 2010, combining it would be January 20, 2009
Cuspers of Generation Z and Alpha - TBD, but possibly January 20, 2015-somewhere between January 20, 2017 and 2019 (the date is totally tentative; roughly 2015-2016 or 2018)
Full birth years = 2016, possibly 2016-2018
Absolute peak of the cusp = January 20, 2016 or 2017, combining it would be July 20, 2016
|
|
|
Waves of Generations, based on presidency (Coming of Age Edition) |
Posted by: Cocoa_Puff - 09-21-2020, 05:20 PM - Forum: Generations
- Replies (1)
|
 |
This is the same as the last one, except, instead of birth year, this is by coming of age period.
This could be an interesting way to look at generations, by the way. And I think we will actually like the setup of this (except there are very hard/rigid cutoffs):
Silent Generation - b. 1927-1945
Truman "coming-of-age" Silents - b. 1927-1934
The 1st terms (1927-1930) cusp with the Greatests, while the 2nd terms (1931-1934) are firmly in the Silent Generation. All were children of the '30s and early '40s. This cohort is the typical Great Depression era babies and kids. They came of age at the time World War II was ending and throughout the baby boom and prosperity happening after that, as well as the Korean War that they were old enough to fight in, compared to WWII, in which they were not. Also the early 1927 babies are going to be in the Greatest Generation since they still came age before FDR passed away and Truman stepped in. The Silents start in mid April 1927, instead of January 1927. Celebrities like William Daniels are still in the Greatest Generation but other celebs born the same year like Jerry Stiller are now Silents. Ends technically in January 1935. Spans from C/O 1945-1953. Full years are 1928-1934.
Eisenhower "coming-of-age" Silents - b. 1935-1942
All of them are firmly Silent to be honest, but the second-term skew towards younger Silents. They were all children of the '40s and are equally as Silents, if not more, than the last group, but are not the stereotypical Depression era Silent Generation. Also came of age during the prosperous '50s, the last full pre-civil rights decade, so they came of age when the blacks and whites were still generally segregated. Ends technically in January 1943. Spans from C/O 1953-1961. Full years are 1936-1942.
JFK "coming-of-age" Silents - b. 1943-1945
This is the tail-end of the Silent cohort, that all cusp with Boomers, had JFK lived to run 2 terms, this cohort would be a cusp cohort instead of a very late Silent cohort. They were kids of the early '50s and were also big contributors of the '60s movements, like hippies, abortion, free sex, feminism, making an impact on the Baby Boomer generation as well as the Eisenhower "coming-of-age" Silents did but were still young enough to seem Boomer. Ends in November 1945. Spans from C/O 1961-1964. The only full year is 1944.
Silent Generation are typically from 1927-1945, but in a technical sense, April 1927-November 1945. So Classes of 1945-1964. Full years are 1928-1944. Greatest-Silent cusps on the Silent side are 1927-1930 (a.k.a. April 1927-January 1931), Core Boomers are 1931-1942 (a.k.a. January 1931-January 1943), and Silent-Boomer cusps on the Silent side are 1943-1945 (a.k.a. January 1943-November 1945). April 1927 are the ultimate Greatest-Silent cusps since they came of age before and after the death of FDR, March 1927 and earlier lean Greatest and May 1927 onward lean Silent. November 1930-January 1931 are the ultimate Early-Core Silent cusps. Those who came of age in Truman's 2nd term and the Eisenhower administration are all in the core. 1936 are numerically the ultimate Silent Generation birth year. November 1942-January 1943 are the ultimate Core-Late Silent cusps. November 1945 are the ultimate Silent-Boomer cusps since they came of age before and after JFK's assassination, October 1945 and earlier lean Silent and December 1945 onward lean Boomer. The oldest Silents were born in April 1927 and the youngest Silents were born in November 1945.
Baby Boomers - b. 1946-1962
LBJ "coming-of-age" Boomers - b. 1946-1950
Technically this cohort starts in late November 1945 after JFK got assassinated and LBJ was sworn in. They all cusp with Silents. They grew up as children in the '50s and teens in the '60s. They were largely born at the beginning of the baby boom, right after WWII. They came of age in the mid-late '60s and fought in Vietnam, took part in a lot of the '60s activism, were hippies, and went to Summer of Love '67, Woodstock. etc. They are usually considered the core Boomers, being born in the late 1940's even though they are relatively early in the Boomer generation. Came of age in the LBJ administration. Ends in January 1951. Spans from C/O 1964-1969. Full years are 1946-1950.
Nixon-Ford "coming-of-age" Boomers - b. 1951-1958
This group is the core of Baby Boomers, coming of age after a time of civil unrest in 1968, and also after the assassinations of MLK and RFK. They were kids of the late '50s and '60s and also teens of the late '60s and '70s, so they are like the '70s Disco Boomers. Some of them were old enough to be in the '60s movements and fight in Vietnam but were definitely young enough to be in the disco phase of the mid-late '70s. They are the stereotypical "yuppies" and are the peak of the baby boom. This group is separated by the Nixon Boomers born from roughly 1951 to early August 1956 (came of age from 1969 to early August 1974, so the majority of the C/O 1969 up to almost all of the C/O 1974) and the Ford Boomers born from roughly early August 1956 to 1958 (came of age from early August 1974 to 1976, so the youngest members of the C/O 1974 to a good chunk of the C/O 1977). Ends technically in January 1959. Full years are 1952-1958.
Carter "coming-of-age" Boomers - b. 1959-1962
This group is the caboose of Baby Boomers, cusping with Gen X. They were kids of the late '60s and teens of the mid-late '70s. They were the OG latchkey kids and peak punk era teenagers. They were probably the last to get into disco as adults before it fell out of style and were the last of the baby boom ('63 and '64 were also in the baby boom, but it was heavily decreasing by then and they are X anyways). They were probably the first video game teens as the Atari came out when they were teenagers. This group comes to a close with those born in January 1963. Spans from C/O 1977-1981. Full years are 1960-1962.
Baby Boomers typically spans from 1946-1962, but in a technical sense, November 1945-January 1963. So Classes of 1964-1981. Full years are 1946-1962. Silent-Boomer cusps on the Boomer side are 1946-1950 (a.k.a. November 1945-January 1951), Core Boomers are 1951-1958 (a.k.a. January 1951-January 1959), and Boomer-Xer cusps on the Boomer side are 1959-1962 (a.k.a. January 1959-January 1963). November 1945 are the ultimate Silent-Boomer cusps since they were born before and after JFK's assassination, October 1945 and earlier lean Silent and December 1945 onward lean Boomer. November 1950-January 1951 are the ultimate Early-Core Boomer cusps. Numerically as a whole, 1954 is the ultimate Boomer birth year, but numerically in the core, 1954 and 1955 are. The real core though are the August 1956 babies because they came of age in both the Nixon and Ford terms, and coming of age in those two presidencies are as Boomer as you can get. July 1956 and earlier lean toward earlier Boomer and September 1956 onward lean toward later Boomer. November 1958-January 1959 are the ultimate Core-Late Boomer cusps. November 1962-January 1963 babies are the ultimate cusps of Boom and X since they came of age between Reagan being elected and Reagan's inauguration. The oldest Boomers were born in November 1945 and the youngest Boomers were born in January 1963.
Generation X - b. 1963-1982
Reagan "coming-of-age" Xers - b. 1963-1970
This group is the leader of Generation X. Those who came of age during the first term cusp with the Boomers. They were generally born in the '60s. First-wave Gen X are very similar to Boomers and are the last "gasp" of the baby boom but they still grew up very differently than them as the Boomers lived in prosperity and were generally spoiled while the Xers had less protection than Boomers and did not live in prosperity as things were getting rough throughout the '60s and '70s, and were latchkey kids because their parents were either neglectful, separated/divorced, or both had work and couldn't take care of them. They were kids of the '70s, so they definitely had a care-free childhood. They were the first to truly grow up with video games as they were kids and teens when the Atari came out and then teens and young adults when the NES came out. They came of age at the height of the AIDS epidemic. This group ends with those born in January 1971. Spans from C/O 1981-1989. Full years are 1964-1970.
Bush Sr. "coming-of-age" Xers - b. 1971-1974
This group is the quintessential group of Generation X. They are the kids of the '70s and '80s as well as '80s teens. They grew up similar to both the Reagan "coming-of-age" and Clinton "coming-of-age" Xers but had more of the stereotypical X experience than both of them. They grew up in the late '70s-early '80s & core '80s, but came of age in the Neon era of the late '80s and early '90s. Came of age at the tail end of the Cold War and the USSR (at least most of them). Were late 20-somethings during 9/11 and teens during the Challenger explosion. They were the peak hair metal teens and Grunge demographic of late teens and early 20-somethings that could vote for Clinton in 1992, which definitely makes them quintessential X because hair metal and Grunge were like the most X things and having your first eligible election while Clinton was running for president for the first time is also very core X. The last to remember a life before the Jonestown Massacre and the Iran Hostage Crisis, and were born before Nixon resigned. Were all in high school during the 1988 election. This group ends with those born in January 1975. Spans from C/O 1989-1993. Full years are 1972-1974.
Clinton "coming-of-age" Xers - b. 1975-1982
This group is the caboose of Generation X. They were the kids of the '80s. They were the last to truly grow up in an analog world before the World Wide Web and the internet came along. They are the last to remember the Challenger explosion. They came of age after the Cold War, during the OJ Simpson trials, OKC bombing, Princess Diana death, Columbine, Y2K, and before 9/11, in which they were all in the 18-25 young adult range ('75 was technically 26). This cohort is probably the best group to be born in to truly experience all that the 1990's decade has to offer, from a kid, teen, and young adult perspective. The younger members cusp with Gen Y. This group ends with those born in January 1983. Spans from C/O 1993-2001. Full years are 1976-1982.
Generation X typically spans from 1963-1982, but in a technical sense, January 1963-January 1983 (a solid 20 years). So Classes of 1981-2001. Full years are 1964-1982. November 1962-January 1963 babies are the ultimate cusps of Boom and X since they came of age between Reagan being elected and Reagan's inauguration. Boomer-Xer cusps on the X side are 1963-1966 (a.k.a. January 1963-January 1967), Core Xers are 1967-1979 (a.k.a. January 1967-January 1979), and Xer-Millie cusps on the X side are 1979-1982 (a.k.a. January 1979-January 1983). January 1963 are the ultimate Boomer-Xer cusps, December 1962 and earlier lean Boomer and February 1963 onward lean X. November 1966-January 1967 are the ultimate Early-Core Xer cusps. Numerically, 1972 and 1973 (more specifically 1973) are the ultimate Xers. November 1978-January 1979 are the ultimate Core-Late Xer cusps. November 1982-January 1983 babies are the ultimate cusps of X and Y since they came of age between Bush being elected and Bush's inauguration. The oldest Xers were born in January 1963 and the youngest Xers were born in January 1983.
Millennials - b. 1983-1998 or 1983-2002 at the latest (depending on if Trump loses, if Trump loses, Millennials go up to 2002, if Trump wins, it ends in 1998)
Bush Jr. "coming-of-age" Millennials - b. 1983-1990
This group is the first wave of Generation Y. Came of age during the Bush administration, grew up as kids in the '90s and are the stereotypical "'90s KIDS WUZ DA BEEEST" 30-somethings. They were the last to grow up in a predominantly analog world and were all in school before the launch of Windows 95 ('90 was just entering Kindergarten so they basically had all of their K-12 experience with the internet). They all came of age in the '00s. They grew up in the economic prosperity of the '90s and early-mid '00s and came of age in a world before the Great Recession that wrecked them financially. They had a very optimistic view of the world up until that point and started thinking more pessimistic because of that fallout. They participated in the emo and hipster culture and are generally last group to not have social media play a major part or any part for that matter in high school. They were all in their double-digits but no older than 18 during 9/11, and would have been the main ones fighting in the war on Iraq. They were and largely still are in high school for events like Columbine, Y2K, 9/11, Iraq War, SARS, Hurricane Katrina, etc. Those who come of age at the very beginning (1st term) cusp with Gen X. This group ends with January 1991. Spans from C/O 2001-2009. Full years are 1984-1990.
Obama "coming-of-age" Millennials - b. 1991-1998
Came of age during the Obama administration, the last to remember Columbine, Y2K, and 9/11. Grew up as kids in the late '90s/early '00s Y2K era and the core '00s. They grew up more analog but was in slight transition away from that into the digital realm. They were all children during 9/11 and tweens at the youngest, teenager at the edge of adulthood during the Great Recession. Participated in emo and scene. Those who come of age in the 2nd term either cusp with Gen Z or are also firmly Millennial, like their 2nd term Bush and 1st term Obama brethren. This group ends with January 1999. Spans from C/O 2009-2017. Full years are 1992-1998.
Just in case Trump loses...
Trump "coming-of-age" Millennials - b. 1999-2002
Born at the peak of the millennium, have absolutely no memory of Columbine, Y2K, and 9/11. Grew up as kids in the late '00s and teens in the mid-late '10's. They came of age before or during the COVID-19 pandemic, which means that they were never a minor in a COVID-19 or post-COVID-19 world, so they only know their youth in a pre-COVID-19 sense. Probably the last to remember life before smartphones and to grow up during the transition from analog to digital but grew up far more digitally. They are the main TikTok creators while people 3-4 years or more younger than them watch their content. They were all in high school during the 2016 election and Parkland shooting. This group either cusps with Gen Z, being the youngest Millennials, or they cusp with Millennials, being the oldest of Gen Z. Either way, they are the ultimate cuspers. This group ends with January 2003. Spans from C/O 2017-2021. Full years are 2000-2002.
First scenario: Generation Y typically spans from 1983-1998, but in a technical sense, January 1983-January 1999. So Classes of 2001-2017. Full years are 1984-1998. November 1982-January 1983 babies are the ultimate cusps of X and Y since they came of age between Bush being elected and Bush's inauguration. Xer-Millie cusps on the Millie side are 1983-1986 (a.k.a. January 1983-January 1987), Core Millies are 1987-1994 (a.k.a. January 1987-January 1995), and Millie-Zoom cusps on the Millie side are 1995-1998 (a.k.a. January 1995-January 1999). January 1983 are the ultimate Xer-Millie cusps, December 1982 and earlier lean X and February 1983 onward lean Millie. November 1986-January 1987 are the ultimate Early-Core Millie cusps. Numerically, 1990 and 1991 (more specifically 1991) are the ultimate Millies. November 1994-January 1995 are the ultimate Core-Late Millies cusps. November 1998-January 1999 babies are the ultimate cusps of Y and Z since they came of age between Trump being elected and Trump's inauguration. January 1999 are the ultimate Millie-Zoom cusps, December 1998 and earlier lean Millie and February 1999 onward lean Zoom. The oldest Millies were born in January 1983 and the youngest Millies were born in January 1999.
Second scenario: Generation Y typically spans from 1983-2002, but in a technical sense, January 1983-January 2003 (solid 20 years). So Classes of 2001-2021. Full years are 1984-2002. November 1982-January 1983 babies are the ultimate cusps of X and Y since they came of age between Bush being elected and Bush's inauguration. Xer-Millie cusps on the Millie side are 1983-1986 (a.k.a. January 1983-January 1987), Core Millies are 1987-1998 (a.k.a. January 1987-January 1999), and Millie-Zoom cusps on the Millie side are 1999-2002 (a.k.a. January 1999-January 2003). January 1983 are the ultimate Xer-Millie cusps, December 1982 and earlier lean X and February 1983 onward lean Millie. November 1986-January 1987 are the ultimate Early-Core Millie cusps. Numerically, 1992 and 1993 (more specifically 1993) are the ultimate Millies. November 1998-January 1999 are the ultimate Core-Late Millie cusps. November 2002-January 2003 babies are the ultimate cusps of Y and Z since they came of age between Trump being re-elected and Trump's second inauguration. January 2003 are the ultimate Millie-Zoom cusps, December 2002 and earlier lean Millie and February 2003 onward lean Zoom. The oldest Millies were born in January 1983 and the youngest Millies were born in January 2003.
Honestly, it is most likely going to be the former and Millennials will end in 1998, rather than 2002.
Generation Z - b. 1999-present or 2003-present (depending on if Trump gets re-elected or not)
If Trump gets re-elected...
Trump "coming-of-age" Zoomers - b. 1999-2006
Born in the early-mid '00s. Grew up as kids in the '00s & '10s and teens in the mid-late '10's and early '20s. They came of age before, during, or after the COVID-19 pandemic, and this group spent all of their childhood and preteen years before hitting 13 prior to the coronavirus, meaning that they are the last to have a genuine, full chlidhood with no interruptions. Probably the last to remember life before smartphones existed and/or became mainstream and to grow up during the transition from analog to digital but grew up almost purely digital. They are the main TikTok creators while people 3-4 years or more younger than them watch their content. They were all in high school during the 2016 election, Parkland shooting, COVID-19 pandemic, and new K-12 CDC laws changing the schools this year. The first terms cusp with Millennials, while the second terms are firmly Gen Z. This group ends with January 2007. Spans from C/O 2017-2021. Full years are 2000-2006.
If Biden wins...
Biden "coming-of-age" Zoomers - b. 2003-present
TBD
Either way the "ultimate" cuspers from both sides are those born from 1999-2002 who come of age in 2017-2020 (or January 1999-January 2003 who come of age in January 2017-January 2021). So the earliest Z can start is January 1999 and the latest Millennials end is January 2003. December 1998 and earlier can never be Z, even if those born from like 1995-1998 cusp with Z, they are still Millennials. February 2003 onward can never be Millennials, even if those born from like 2003-2006 cusp with Millennials, they are still Z.
|
|
|
|