(06-17-2016, 02:59 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 02:44 AM)Galen Wrote: I have posted this one before but not where we encountered because you see it was almost never played on the radio.  I am curious to see what you think of it.  This movie was very popular among Xers but I don't think a Millie will relate to it very well.

No i don't relate to it and the sound is unusual to me. I do not understand the meaning of it. I can only imagine it is about senseless killing and madness around these war vets. Shrug. Not my thing but i totally respect that many xers like it.

(06-17-2016, 03:28 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 03:22 AM)Galen Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 02:59 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 02:44 AM)Galen Wrote: I have posted this one before but not where we encountered because you see it was almost never played on the radio.  I am curious to see what you think of it.  This movie was very popular among Xers but I don't think a Millie will relate to it very well.

No i don't relate to it and the sound is unusual to me. I do not understand the meaning of it. I can only imagine it is about senseless killing and madness around these war vets. Shrug. Not my thing but i totally respect that many xers like it.

You don't understand and I am not surprised.  Consider yourself fortunate.

The GIs stared into the abyss during the Second World War and for many of those who survived there was something to look forward to as history records.  For Generation X that was never true even though many of us stared into the abyss at all to young of an age and knew that it was only a dress rehearsal for what was to come.  No matter what we did there would be no victory and survival was only temporary at best.  No matter what in the end there would be no victory.

Yeah i think we take out of songs what we put in them. This proves I am no xer at all pretty much. I did not see that in this song. Just the literal image as i cannot relate at all to that despair as I always try to solve issues and with it look for a bright side to a problem.

(06-17-2016, 03:44 AM)taramarie Wrote: To make Eric's eardrums bleed. I know he will hate this one.

But i post because i like this song. I encountered it on Rockband. 

(06-17-2016, 03:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: Yes and no because quite often i have created something and people interpret in a way which made me look twice at my work Because even i had no intended it to have a meaning that someone else got out of it. Which always fascinates meas it tells me something about that person. Not sure as to why he hates that music. Maybe he just has certain tastes. Who knows. I also like him like my happier upbeat music...but that was the era i grew up in and it is nostalgic for me. However i have grown to like music that would make his hair fall out too! For me i am a mix of both. Happier music helps me to relax and remember good times and the other helps me to understand the current misery i am going through with my mother's debt and the recession hitting NZ hard as well as the earthquake disaster that is ongoing here.

(06-17-2016, 04:00 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 04:07 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 03:55 AM)Galen Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 03:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: Yes and no because quite often i have created something and people interpret in a way which made me look twice at my work Because even i had no intended it to have a meaning that someone else got out of it. Which always fascinates meas it tells me something about that person. Not sure as to why he hates that music. Maybe he just has certain tastes. Who knows. I also like him like my happier upbeat music...but that was the era i grew up in and it is nostalgic for me. However i have grown to like music that would make his hair fall out too! For me i am a mix of both. Happier music helps me to relax and remember good times and the other helps me to understand the current misery i am going through with my mother's debt and the recession hitting NZ hard as well as the earthquake disaster that is ongoing here.

He knows why he doesn't like it but he can't face the reason for its existence.  It would require more exposure to reality than he can ever deal with.

Well I tried to explain to him why it is necessary for it to sound the way that it sounds but he either did not understand or just puts his taste before everything else. He wanted to make it more "beautiful and melodic." I said that would take away the point to the songs. Smdh. It amazes me that he too is an artist like myself but does not understand this. He truly is an idealist. I mean I may not understand the meaning to something an xer would understand like earlier...but at least i understand the sound, image and feel to the song is portraying a message that wants to be heard and understood (as well as what we individually can interpret to mean).

(06-17-2016, 04:22 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 04:14 AM)Galen Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 04:07 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 03:55 AM)Galen Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 03:51 AM)taramarie Wrote: Yes and no because quite often i have created something and people interpret in a way which made me look twice at my work Because even i had no intended it to have a meaning that someone else got out of it. Which always fascinates meas it tells me something about that person. Not sure as to why he hates that music. Maybe he just has certain tastes. Who knows. I also like him like my happier upbeat music...but that was the era i grew up in and it is nostalgic for me. However i have grown to like music that would make his hair fall out too! For me i am a mix of both. Happier music helps me to relax and remember good times and the other helps me to understand the current misery i am going through with my mother's debt and the recession hitting NZ hard as well as the earthquake disaster that is ongoing here.

He knows why he doesn't like it but he can't face the reason for its existence.  It would require more exposure to reality than he can ever deal with.

Well I tried to explain to him why it is necessary for it to sound the way that it sounds but he either did not understand or just puts his taste before everything else. He wanted to make it more "beautiful and melodic." I said that would take away the point to the songs. Smdh. It amazes me that he too is an artist like myself but does not understand this. He truly is an idealist. I mean I may not understand the meaning to something an xer would understand like earlier...but at least i understand the sound, image and feel to the song is portraying a message that wants to be heard and understood (as well as what we individually can interpret to mean).

Remember the demographic they were trying to appeal to at the time.  Happy sixties optimism just wasn't going to work with people dealing with the consequences of what he sees as idealism.  Eric the Obtuse is a tyrant who doesn't have the stones to admit what he is.  People and art are simply objects to be molded to his desires.  As a former Buddhist monk I know is fond of saying, "Desire is the root of all evil."

Well I dunno tbh i think he may just be stubborn and think his way is the right way in all things including music. I hate to think of him as a tyrant. I would not go that far but that is just me. But lets just enjoy the music as he will see this and will turn a good thread into a squabble fest.

(06-17-2016, 04:29 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(06-17-2016, 04:18 AM)Galen Wrote: Perhaps this will give you a bit better feel of the zeitgeist of the time without the rather dark imagery of Blue Oyster Cult.  These guys were somewhat off the wall for the time.

God it must suck to be an xer. I can't even imagine tbh what it is like to have that mentality. Surely often it is how we interpret our lives and what we think and put to action helps to make or break us. But yes of course outer forces give us a knock around too. I swallowed that tough pill too but mind to goal and don't let it break you i keep telling myself. Things will get better eventually. I just have to work towards it. That is my outlook anyway.

(06-17-2016, 04:45 AM)taramarie Wrote: 1992

This song took on a whole new meaning during the massive earthquakes...

(06-17-2016, 05:09 AM)taramarie Wrote:

  i have this album

(06-17-2016, 04:39 AM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote: Galen is just politically wrong. That colors everything he says about me. In my view, the lack of and betrayal of idealism is what went wrong, generally-speaking; not the consequences of it. But in music, I am interested ONLY in quality, and that is synonymous with beauty, melody, harmony, counterpoint, rhythm, imagination, sound, ambience and atmosphere, lyrics, vocal styling, inspiration; all the things that make music great. Whether the words or "message" is idealistic or cynical is almost beside the point. You know what my #1 rock song is, for example. I'll get to it pretty soon.