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RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - gabrielle - 06-17-2016






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - gabrielle - 06-17-2016






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - gabrielle - 06-17-2016

Can't decide between these two, from the same album, "Touch" in 1983:









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RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

Galen Wrote:but not where we encountered because you see it was almost never played on the radio.  I am curious to see what you think of it.  This movie was very popular among Xers but I don't think a Millie will relate to it very well.




Yes, it's right up there with Dazed and Confused and Fast Times at Ridgemont High.






I prefer the more anti authoritarian stuff. Cool  I bet the War on Drugs ninnies would shit a brick if they saw this.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

So, we're donig the 1980's here?  OK,  here's to the decade of decadence!






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

Here's one of Eric's favorite bands:






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

A fine mix of movie and music Big Grin 






RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

Another mix of movie and music.  




RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-17-2016

More awesome stuff from the awesome 1980's



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RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Galen - 06-18-2016

(06-17-2016, 02:03 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 01:09 PM)Galen Wrote: and there was rather more to it than that.
Not that I could make out.

You have always had a rather superficial way of looking at things.  You only heard the part that you wanted to rather than considering the whole.  This is what I expected and why I chose that particular piece.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Galen - 06-18-2016

(06-17-2016, 02:42 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Galen Wrote: Taramarie those were some good choices.  I have to get some sleep so I will leave you with this something that I listened to quite a bit.  I am curious to  if you can figure out why.




Too much listening to bias "proof" and calling it expert and not being objective. We are lost pawns to "the man." No one cares and we are on our own.

Those are the messages I could decipher from it anyway listening to the lyrics.

Not bad but you missed one very important aspect of it.  No matter how much you think that you know, or plan for, the unknown will always trip you up.  Always an important thing to consider in life.  None of this is an exact science and you have done well.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Galen - 06-18-2016

(06-17-2016, 08:26 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
Galen Wrote:but not where we encountered because you see it was almost never played on the radio.  I am curious to see what you think of it.  This movie was very popular among Xers but I don't think a Millie will relate to it very well.




Yes, it's right up there with Dazed and Confused and Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

True enough.  Rodney Dangerfield started getting popular about this time a well.  There are times when you just need a laugh even in an insane world.

(06-17-2016, 08:26 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:



I prefer the more anti authoritarian stuff. Cool  I bet the War on Drugs ninnies would shit a brick if they saw this.

They shit bricks for much less than that and many of them were Boomers who hit the nose candy heavily during the disco era.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Galen - 06-18-2016

(06-18-2016, 12:26 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(06-18-2016, 12:10 AM)Galen Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 02:42 PM)taramarie Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 05:44 AM)Galen Wrote: Taramarie those were some good choices.  I have to get some sleep so I will leave you with this something that I listened to quite a bit.  I am curious to  if you can figure out why.




Too much listening to bias "proof" and calling it expert and not being objective. We are lost pawns to "the man." No one cares and we are on our own.

Those are the messages I could decipher from it anyway listening to the lyrics.

Not bad but you missed one very important aspect of it.  No matter how much you think that you know or plan the unknown will always trip you up.  Always an important thing to consider.  None of this is an exact science and you have done well.

Ah that is a very good lesson. Yes it is something i struggle with. Reason being my whole childhood has been highly structured and as an adult i try to plan all the time but it never works out the way i want it to. It bothers me immensely. It is a hard lesson and i am not sure how to deal with it. I create goals to work towards and just hope it works out for the best atm.

I always keep a set of contingency plans for all of the failure modes that I can identify.  In this way I maximize my chances of keeping the goal attainable without creating long term problems for the future.  I also have a fail-safe position so that total failure does not put anything I already have in jeopardy.  For Xers paranoia is not simply a lifestyle but a survival skill.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Galen - 06-18-2016

(06-18-2016, 12:53 AM)taramarie Wrote:
(06-18-2016, 12:44 AM)Galen Wrote: I always keep a set of contingency plans for all of the failure modes that I can identify.  In this way I maximize my chances of keeping the goal attainable without creating long term problems for the future.  I also have a fail-safe position so that total failure does not put anything I already have in jeopardy.  For Xers paranoia is not simply a lifestyle but a survival skill.

Something I could definitely learn from for sure. Thank you for the advice. I will have to think about it and how it can work around my goals. What would we do without xers huh? Smile

You would have figured it out yourself, eventually.  I don't mind saving you some time and mistakes.  It is simply part of the risk management strategy we have had to develop.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Ragnarök_62 - 06-18-2016






My anthem below: Cool





Rock & Roll's Gonna Save The World came out in 1984 and it still rings true now.





lyrics Wrote:Kings and queens and presidents
Are tryin' to take the world in hand
Jokers and freaks and Arab sheiks
Are fightin' over chunks of sand
But oh, my eyes have seen the glory
For the coming of the chord
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Don't you know that's the way we're gonna change it?
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Rock & Roll
You don't need to fight when you're rockin' right
Tin soldiers march around the world
No matter what the people say
One man makes all the policies
While the rest of us get blown away
Yes, tonight you got the power
To lift your voices up and scream
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Don't you know that's the way we're gonna change it?
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Rock & Roll
We'll burn it up tonight, burn with all our might
We don't need to fight when we're rockin' right
We will rock & roll
Come on now, everybody
Won't you join me in my dream?
Now's the time to lift your voices
From a whisper to a scream
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Don't you know that's the way we're gonna change it?
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Rock & Roll
We need to rock, rock
We need to roll, rock
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
We gotta rock, rock
To take control, rock
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
We need to rock, rock
We need to roll, rock
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
We gotta rock, rock
To take control, rock
Rock & Roll, come on
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Don't you know that's the way we're gonna change it?
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Listen everybody we're gonna rearrange it
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Yes, we're gonna save the world
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Oh, it's gonna save the world
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Don't you know that's the way we're gonna change it?
Rock & Roll's gonna save the world
Rock & Roll



RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - gabrielle - 06-18-2016

(06-17-2016, 08:31 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote: So, we're donig the 1980's here?  OK,  here's to the decade of decadence!



This thread is for early 80s and 3T music.  I wanted it go on a year by year timeline, like the other thread but from the earliest year (1980) to the latest (2007 or thereabouts) instead of going backwards in time.  People were very enthusiastic and jumped way ahead of me, though!  Post whatever you like from this time period (I'm still in the 80s, but I will get to the 90s eventually--lots of good stuff in both decades).


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Eric the Green - 06-18-2016

(06-18-2016, 12:05 AM)Galen Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 02:03 PM)Eric the Obtuse Wrote:
(06-17-2016, 01:09 PM)Galen Wrote: and there was rather more to it than that.
Not that I could make out.

You have always had a rather superficial way of looking at things.  You only heard the part that you wanted to rather than considering the whole.  This is what I expected and why I chose that particular piece.

It's often too hard to make words out in a song. Others have the courtesy to post lyrics if they want someone to know them. You don't.


RE: the best songs ever: the lost years - Eric the Green - 06-18-2016

I think gabrielle touched on the difference between someone like me and you guys. For me, a "best song" has to have some level artistry that's similar in some ways to a classical music piece. A high level of artistry such that it could compare to the work of classical composers. And remember, those composers also wrote actual songs, not just symphonies. Something by boy bands or sexy girls to groove to that has a beat you can dance to, or some interesting lyrics, is different from that. Not to mention deliberate decadence, like Rags is posting in this thread, which simply means poor quality music. To each his own; it's not a moral issue. It may be fun or funky for you guys, OK; but that's a difference.

A great song by The Who may have some different instrumentation and singing that's not the same as a majestic and rocking Beethoven symphony finale. But otherwise they are the same; the best Who songs have magnificent form and structure, power and feeling that's like what I hear in Beethoven or Bach. Many great rock songs from the 2T can compare or surpass many classical works in those qualities. Critics of the time agreed. The Beatles and other musicians sometimes brought western and eastern classical influences into their music, and thereby raised it to a higher level of artistry. In my preferences, I hold music to the same standard of artistry, regardless of genre. Not one preference for rock, another for classical, another for folk, etc. Those from the 3T, do not aspire to that kind of standard. It was perhaps just a question of what the musicians were interested in doing in those 2 different turnings.

Also, the original purpose of music should be remembered. Music and the other arts are here to help facilitate mystical experience. Art is the handmaiden of spirituality.