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Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-14-2019

The generations and Pluto: 

As a Gen Joneser, I was too young to serve in Vietnam or do all the sit-ins, but old enough to remember or  see the effect of  the assassinations of hero-type people like JFK, MLK, Bobbie, and Malcolm X. I call Gen Jones the Assassination Generation because that affected us more than anyone will admit. Gen Jones has Silent parents. Gen Jones was born with Pluto in sober, adult Virgo; we roll up our sleeves and quietly get things done with little notice or reward. Practical Pluto in Virgo Jonesers swing both conservative or liberal; depending on the Silents who raised them. Generous Silent parents created conservative Jonesers; selfish Silents created liberal Jonesers. We are hard  working, sturdy, survivors, serious, grown-up-too-fast, perfectionists, making order out of chaos, always feeling left out,  raised with high economic expectations but  realizing none of these because of de-regulation, pink-slipping, downsizing, greedy 80's policies.   

 
Boomers were born with Pluto in Leo; the teenager of the zodiac with all the insecurities, need to fit in, judgemental attitudes, selfish narcissism, attention-hogging, demanding, needy, vain characters and personalities of teenagers everywhere. Boomers have that "Me, me, ME" attitude.
 
Silents were born with Pluto in Cancer; they got married and had kids early yet did the worst job of nurturing their kids. Cancer is the crab that hoards everything for themselves and won't give up anything; they hold what's theirs like a crab does with their claws; even when you chop off the claw the claw will not open and give up what it has. These Pluto in Cancer Silents are a cardinal sign meaning they want to be the leaders but were stifled in that by the super-hero GI's and super-loud Boomers. So they control what they can and that means they control the assets they were so lucky to accumulate and hoard in their lives. They use those assets to have fun and control their Gen Jones and Gen X kids. 
 
Gen X are the Pluto in Libra folks; Libra being the ones that love balance and beauty and the good life and partnerships but they were raised by selfish Silents or Boomers and so they haven't the economic means to achieve that love of beauty. They grew up in the excessive greed of the 80's but upon reaching adulthood, could not have any of the largesse the Silents and Boomers got. Their Silent and Boomer parents divorced in record numbers but these Pluto in Libra (the sign of marriage) folks had to fend for themselves and grow up fast; they desired marriages but not the easily broken kind like their Silent and Boomer parents. So they were tentative in marriage and seek a balance (another Libra trait) in their work-lives that their parents never looked for because they had it so much easier. They, too, are cardinal folks but  have not had the ability to lead because Silents and Boomers will not relinquish their grip on power. 
 
Millennials are the Pluto in Scorpio folks. Scorpio being about sexuality, death, taxes, inheritances and other people's money; is it any wonder these folks have totally changed the way we all think of gender (transgender, non-binary, gender-fluid, gender-queer, different pronouns) and sex (asexual, pansexual, demisexual, )? They inherit the bad choices of the previous generations, they pay higher taxes to fund the greedier older generations, they now have deadly global warming to contend with and Boomers that will NOT give up their places or their riches for the Millennials who have to have a degree to get jobs but there's few full time jobs available so they end up living with their Joneser or Boomer parents (living off other people's money). That Scorpio death part shows up in their nihilism and nihilistic humor. 
 
Gen Z is the Pluto in Sagittarius generation. They have a much more global and philosophical outlook yet have a fatalistic view of life. Sagittarius are the philosophers of truth, it rules higher love, global ways of thinking, cultural investigations, foreign people, cultures, languages, higher education like college, and long-range communications. These kids grew up with hand-held computers that gave them a global reach before they could even read. They are far more exposed to foreign cultural icons, arts, thinking, philosophy. Theirs is a group that shuns nationalism and sees spirituality as more important than established religion. 
 
And that's just Pluto; Uranus has an 84 year cycle (like the Turning cycle of S & H), Jupiter and Saturn have cycles as does Neptune. All outer planets exert generational influences.


RE: Generations and Astrology - Kinser79 - 05-15-2019

Paging Eric....

Also shouldn't this be in the Astrology and other Woo-Woo section of the forum?


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 01:00 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Paging Eric....

Also shouldn't this be in the Astrology and other Woo-Woo section of the forum?

Hahahaha yes as saw as I saw this I thought oh hell this will have Eric all over it! Let the entertainment begin!  Big Grin


RE: Generations and Astrology - Kinser79 - 05-15-2019

If you consider that entertaining.  But perhaps if he has another lunatic person who fancies himself a prophetic visionary due to the power of discredited nonsense astrology maybe he'll leave the adults to talk for a while.


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 01:12 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: If you consider that entertaining.  But perhaps if he has another lunatic person who fancies himself a prophetic visionary due to the power of discredited nonsense astrology maybe he'll leave the adults to talk for a while.
Oh it is endlessly entertaining comedy for me. Especially when he pulls out the braggard card. If he believes in it, all the power to him and those like him. But for me it is pure entertainment and I enjoy the dive into their fantasy quietly having a chuckle at it.


RE: Generations and Astrology - Kinser79 - 05-15-2019

Meh...I mostly ignore it.  Too much like listening to my mother.  I can't tell you how much she's wasted on psychics, gurus and all manner of other things.

One of the reasons I discovered it was a legal con.  Back before they started off shoring all the call centers I made good money keeping people on the phone at those 1-900 number places.  That was a thing where you were charged to talk to someone on the phone above and beyond your typical long distance rate.  I also did terot and other psychic counciling on the side too until the state cracked down on that sort of thing.

I figured I'd rather join the service then join the prison system for a 25 or 30K a year (and this was late 90s dollars). Big Grin


RE: Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 01:30 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Meh...I mostly ignore it.  Too much like listening to my mother.  I can't tell you how much she's wasted on psychics, gurus and all manner of other things.

One of the reasons I discovered it was a legal con.  Back before they started off shoring all the call centers I made good money keeping people on the phone at those 1-900 number places.  That was a thing where you were charged to talk to someone on the phone above and beyond your typical long distance rate.  I also did terot and other psychic counciling on the side too until the state cracked down on that sort of thing.

I figured I'd rather join the service then join the prison system for a 25 or 30K a year (and this was late 90s dollars). Big Grin

Gee you posted a lot of replies for someone ignoring it!  LOL!

It is just another way of looking at patterns.  No predictions, no seers,  just patterns.


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 03:22 AM)carecare7 Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 01:30 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Meh...I mostly ignore it.  Too much like listening to my mother.  I can't tell you how much she's wasted on psychics, gurus and all manner of other things.

One of the reasons I discovered it was a legal con.  Back before they started off shoring all the call centers I made good money keeping people on the phone at those 1-900 number places.  That was a thing where you were charged to talk to someone on the phone above and beyond your typical long distance rate.  I also did terot and other psychic counciling on the side too until the state cracked down on that sort of thing.

I figured I'd rather join the service then join the prison system for a 25 or 30K a year (and this was late 90s dollars). Big Grin

Gee you posted a lot of replies for someone ignoring it!  LOL!

It is just another way of looking at patterns.  No predictions, no seers,  just patterns.
Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


RE: Generations and Astrology - Kinser79 - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 03:22 AM)carecare7 Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 01:30 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Meh...I mostly ignore it.  Too much like listening to my mother.  I can't tell you how much she's wasted on psychics, gurus and all manner of other things.

One of the reasons I discovered it was a legal con.  Back before they started off shoring all the call centers I made good money keeping people on the phone at those 1-900 number places.  That was a thing where you were charged to talk to someone on the phone above and beyond your typical long distance rate.  I also did terot and other psychic counciling on the side too until the state cracked down on that sort of thing.

I figured I'd rather join the service then join the prison system for a 25 or 30K a year (and this was late 90s dollars). Big Grin

Gee you posted a lot of replies for someone ignoring it!  LOL!

It is just another way of looking at patterns.  No predictions, no seers,  just patterns.

Carecare7, I was mostly replying to Tara.

Here's a pattern for you...things happen while the planet spins.  Astrology has been throughly discredited and anyone who still holds that it has any predictive power is misguided at best.


RE: Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 12:14 PM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 03:22 AM)carecare7 Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 01:30 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Meh...I mostly ignore it.  Too much like listening to my mother.  I can't tell you how much she's wasted on psychics, gurus and all manner of other things.

One of the reasons I discovered it was a legal con.  Back before they started off shoring all the call centers I made good money keeping people on the phone at those 1-900 number places.  That was a thing where you were charged to talk to someone on the phone above and beyond your typical long distance rate.  I also did terot and other psychic counciling on the side too until the state cracked down on that sort of thing.

I figured I'd rather join the service then join the prison system for a 25 or 30K a year (and this was late 90s dollars). Big Grin

Gee you posted a lot of replies for someone ignoring it!  LOL!

It is just another way of looking at patterns.  No predictions, no seers,  just patterns.

Carecare7, I was mostly replying to Tara.

Here's a pattern for you...things happen while the planet spins.  Astrology has been throughly discredited and anyone who still holds that it has any predictive power is misguided at best.

Again,  if you read my reply you would have seen the part where I said  "No predictions..."


RE: Generations and Astrology - Ragnarök_62 - 05-15-2019

(05-15-2019, 01:00 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Paging Eric....

Also shouldn't this be in the Astrology and other Woo-Woo section of the forum?

I just moved it. Seems to be an innocent mistake. New users may not know of stale threads with the same thing.
There is a link in the old place which should be gone in a day or 2.


RE: Generations and Astrology - Eric the Green - 05-15-2019

No replies, except from the lousy posters who are not interested. That's OK; thanks carecare for posting your views on the planets and generations.

My views in my book published the same time as The Fourth Turning are here:
http://philosopherswheel.com/generations.htm

The fact of the correlation between the planet cycles and generations/fourth turning is undeniable. Those who deny it are also denying S&H.


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-16-2019

tisk tisk that mouth of yours Eric! Go wash your mouth with soap and water! I am interested....in my own way tee hee! Btw your message is a "reply."


RE: Generations and Astrology - Kinser79 - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 12:22 AM)taramarie Wrote: tisk tisk that mouth of yours Eric! Go wash your mouth with soap and water! I am interested....in my own way tee hee! Btw your message is a "reply."

Me too.  I'd like to see you two scrap instead you merely promoting your shitty book that is maybe usable as a door stop. Entertainment hasn't been the same since the Catholic Church banned the Games in 404 CE. Big Grin


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-16-2019

(05-16-2019, 03:01 AM)Kinser79 Wrote:
(05-16-2019, 12:22 AM)taramarie Wrote: tisk tisk that mouth of yours Eric! Go wash your mouth with soap and water! I am interested....in my own way tee hee! Btw your message is a "reply."

Me too.  I'd like to see you two scrap instead you merely promoting your shitty book that is maybe usable as a door stop. Entertainment hasn't been the same since the Catholic Church banned the Games in 404 CE.  Big Grin

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RE: Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-16-2019

Wow, people here are really rude and dismissive. Don't believe in Astrology? Then don't read these posts. Or read them and keep your negative comments to yourself. I have not called anyone names or belittled anyone here. Maybe you nay-sayers could be a bit less busy trashing and bad-mouthing new and other posters and instead offer something constructive to say about the topic. If you have no belief in or interest in the topic, then just move along; why waste your time posting if you have no interest in it?


RE: Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-16-2019

(05-15-2019, 06:52 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: No replies, except from the lousy posters who are not interested. That's OK; thanks carecare for posting your views on the planets and generations.

My views in my book published the same time as The Fourth Turning are here:
http://philosopherswheel.com/generations.htm

The fact of the correlation between the planet cycles and generations/fourth turning is undeniable. Those who deny it are also denying S&H.

Thanks for the link, Eric.


RE: Generations and Astrology - carecare7 - 05-16-2019

(05-15-2019, 03:30 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:
(05-15-2019, 01:00 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Paging Eric....

Also shouldn't this be in the Astrology and other Woo-Woo section of the forum?

I just moved it. Seems to be an innocent mistake. New users may not know of stale threads with the same thing.
There is a link in the old place which should be gone in a day or 2.

Thanks.  As a new user, I appreciate your benefit of the doubt.  Smile


RE: Generations and Astrology - Eric the Green - 05-17-2019

(05-16-2019, 06:37 PM)carecare7 Wrote: Wow,  people here are really rude and dismissive.  Don't believe in Astrology?  Then don't  read these posts.  Or read them and keep your negative comments to yourself.  I have not called anyone names or belittled anyone here.  Maybe you nay-sayers could be  a bit less busy trashing and bad-mouthing  new and other posters and instead  offer something constructive to say about the topic.  If you have no belief in or interest in the topic, then just move along;  why waste your time posting if you have no interest in it?

Taramarie and kinser are unusually rude and dismissive posters. They come and go and are not typical of this forum.


RE: Generations and Astrology - taramarie - 05-17-2019

(05-17-2019, 02:24 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(05-16-2019, 06:37 PM)carecare7 Wrote: Wow,  people here are really rude and dismissive.  Don't believe in Astrology?  Then don't  read these posts.  Or read them and keep your negative comments to yourself.  I have not called anyone names or belittled anyone here.  Maybe you nay-sayers could be  a bit less busy trashing and bad-mouthing  new and other posters and instead  offer something constructive to say about the topic.  If you have no belief in or interest in the topic, then just move along;  why waste your time posting if you have no interest in it?

Taramarie and kinser are unusually rude and dismissive posters. They come and go and are not typical of this forum.

I lost respect for you after you condoned touching people inappropriately and condemned defending yourself against it. Why the hell should I treat you with respect after that? This is only towards you. No one else here.