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RE: What the left has devolved to. - Ragnarök_62 - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:14 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(02-02-2017, 05:10 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:39 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: The Left will need to work a lot harder if they don't want to be associated with firestarters, walking vaginas, and Madonna. Yeah, I'll be sure to party when that motherfucker croaks. *I mean really, the stuff he funds does nobody any good. I also know Oklahoma sure could use that hedge fund money to fix our state budget. *Rags is a Taurus and pretty much everything trends towards money. Just ask Eric. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Eric the Green - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:10 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:39 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: The Left will need to work a lot harder if they don't want to be associated with firestarters, walking vaginas, and Madonna. There is no evidence that Soros is really linked to the things that conspiracy theorists SAY that he is linked to. RE: What the left has devolved to. - SomeGuy - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:36 AM)taramarie Wrote: "Except, both sides don't. Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down." Agreed, I would like hard evidence that you are neither blind nor deaf. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 04:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:As an American (a red as most blues like you here see me), I view you as a so-called liberal/blue/progressive and that's it. You don't mean anything more to me than those words. I only have an interest in one of them that you use. The one that I've already challenged and removed from you and those like yourself a long time. Do we (I say we because it's no longer just little old me vs a big blue regime like before) really need to do it all over again to prove a point?(02-02-2017, 04:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:I view the Democrats that way because that's how they come across to me and their politics come across to me. In my case, the Democrats have earned whatever vile stereotype that I've placed on them. You haven't figured this out yet. You haven't figured that you've been directly engaging with a hard core American for years. An American who has been judging you, your opinions, your actions or lack of actions, your social tolerances and the fundamental strengths of your values and beliefs as a so-called blue voter. An American who doesn't doesn't give a crap about your race, your gender, your ethnic heritage or whatever the Democrats view as being most valuable to themselves vote wise/blue community wise at election time.(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I assume that you are aware that rhetoric can easily turn into violence. RE: What the left has devolved to. - SomeGuy - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:38 PM)taramarie Wrote:(02-02-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:36 AM)taramarie Wrote: "Except, both sides don't. Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down." So what you're saying is you don't have any citations. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Eric the Green - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:43 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:As an American (a red as most blues like you here see me), I view you as a so-called liberal/blue/progressive and that's it. You don't mean anything more to me than those words. I only have an interest in one of them that you use. The one that I've already challenged and removed from you and those like yourself a long time. Do we (I say we because it's no longer just little old me vs a big blue regime like before) really need to do it all over again to prove a point?(02-02-2017, 04:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:I view the Democrats that way because that's how they come across to me and their politics come across to me. In my case, the Democrats have earned whatever vile stereotype that I've placed on them. You haven't figured this out yet. You haven't figured that you've been directly engaging with a hard core American for years. An American who has been judging you, your opinions, your actions or lack of actions, your social tolerances and the fundamental strengths of your values and beliefs as a so-called blue voter. An American who doesn't doesn't give a crap about your race, your gender, your ethnic heritage or whatever the Democrats view as being most valuable to themselves vote wise/blue community wise at election time.(02-02-2017, 03:01 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote: I assume that you are aware that rhetoric can easily turn into violence. You say "red voters" like yourself are "core Americans" and "blue voters" like me are not, but you haven't provided any meaning to the words "core American" that you use to define yourself and some other "red voters." What are we to believe about what you mean? RE: What the left has devolved to. - Ragnarök_62 - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-02-2017, 05:10 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:39 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: The Left will need to work a lot harder if they don't want to be associated with firestarters, walking vaginas, and Madonna. Try again. Note I said "perhaps an investigation". Open Society's record indicate that an investigation is warranted. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:38 PM)taramarie Wrote:As far as the forum goes, which side seems to be more vicious in nature. I don't need a foreigner to help me pick out the primary trouble makers. Why did you choose blue America? Why did you choose less individual freedoms? Less individual wealth? Less individual power and so forth. You haven't picked that up here yet.(02-02-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:36 AM)taramarie Wrote: "Except, both sides don't. Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down." RE: What the left has devolved to. - Ragnarök_62 - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:38 PM)taramarie Wrote:(02-02-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:36 AM)taramarie Wrote: "Except, both sides don't. Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down." I have not seen any news stories about so called right wingers rioting or assaulting folks. Since I can't find it, that means it does not exist. Since you're the one who stated "both sides participate in the viciousness" , then either prove it or agree with my statements that I have documented. Caterpillers? Chicken feed. *Chicken award for tara RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:54 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:I heard that he spent 90 plus million to mess up Trumps weekend.(02-02-2017, 05:21 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:(02-02-2017, 05:10 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:39 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: The Left will need to work a lot harder if they don't want to be associated with firestarters, walking vaginas, and Madonna. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Ragnarök_62 - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 07:05 PM)taramarie Wrote: Rags, sorry that you are blind and deaf to what goes on over there in your own country. Uh, begging the question now are we? Quote:As to the caterpillar food, i just bought them some swan plants. Yeah, I know. To clarify, you can use caterpillars to feed chickens. There's a stray chicken that's on the loose. I like it when she eats grubs in my garden soil. Hopefully, she'll be on the lam come spring and eat any caterpillars that bother my garden plants. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 05:51 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:How much of America do you seem care about America as a whole? How much of America as a whole truly matters to you? Have you've been paying attention to our philosophical/ideological battles of sorts and the more sovereign issues that related to those values? Have you been taking my advice and taking into account the presence of American voters here and American voters elsewhere or have you just been focused on recruiting/keeping blue voters. Would/can you even call yourself a hard core American without concerns in so-called blue America these days?(02-02-2017, 05:43 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:12 PM)Eric the Green Wrote:As an American (a red as most blues like you here see me), I view you as a so-called liberal/blue/progressive and that's it. You don't mean anything more to me than those words. I only have an interest in one of them that you use. The one that I've already challenged and removed from you and those like yourself a long time. Do we (I say we because it's no longer just little old me vs a big blue regime like before) really need to do it all over again to prove a point?(02-02-2017, 04:04 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:(02-02-2017, 03:18 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: Oh, yes.I view the Democrats that way because that's how they come across to me and their politics come across to me. In my case, the Democrats have earned whatever vile stereotype that I've placed on them. You haven't figured this out yet. You haven't figured that you've been directly engaging with a hard core American for years. An American who has been judging you, your opinions, your actions or lack of actions, your social tolerances and the fundamental strengths of your values and beliefs as a so-called blue voter. An American who doesn't doesn't give a crap about your race, your gender, your ethnic heritage or whatever the Democrats view as being most valuable to themselves vote wise/blue community wise at election time. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 07:08 PM)taramarie Wrote:What makes you think/feel/believe that I'm not open for discussion or open to reading your personal opinions and open to gaining an understanding of your views as a blue?(02-02-2017, 05:58 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:Classic, pretty much you are a waste of time for me anyway as you certainly are not open for discussion so give me a reason why I should engage with you on this and my personal beliefs before I indulge you as to what i think. Tell me why it is worth my time? If you give me a sufficient answer I will then tell you and you will be more than likely surprised by my answer.(02-02-2017, 05:38 PM)taramarie Wrote:As far as the forum goes, which side seems to be more vicious in nature. I don't need a foreigner to help me pick out the primary trouble makers. Why did you choose blue America? Why did you choose less individual freedoms? Less individual wealth? Less individual power and so forth. You haven't picked that up here yet.(02-02-2017, 05:17 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 04:36 AM)taramarie Wrote: "Except, both sides don't. Only one side regularly attacks people from the other side, or resorts to burning things down." RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 08:13 PM)taramarie Wrote: Nihilist, I just said on this very same thread that I do not get my news just from radio. Most of it comes from Americans themselves and online source for which i fact check. You are thinking old school, girl!Nihilist, ain't all that old school. You get the bulk of your information from who, which group of Americans, on the internet. Are you familiar with Republican politics yet? Are you familiar with Republican voters yet? RE: What the left has devolved to. - Classic-Xer - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 08:31 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: Talking to Americans online isn't the same thing as talking to Americans. Just sayin.Talking to the same Americans on line isn't the same as talking to different Americans either. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Odin - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 08:50 AM)nihilist moron Wrote: I listened to Milo on the news last night. He's surely an attention whore. This is why the university should have never allowed him to speak in the first place. His whole shtick is to incite violence by being as offensive as possible, that is the whole point, he doesn't actually believe any of the nonsense he spouts. He's the guy who shouts "FIRE" in a crowded theater and then blames people stampeding for the exits for the people who died in the panic. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Odin - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 12:40 PM)SomeGuy Wrote:(02-02-2017, 07:51 AM)Odin Wrote:Quote:Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. — In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law, and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal. The brownshirt was Milo. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Odin - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 06:15 PM)nihilist moron Wrote: I just spent four weeks in Australia and NZ. The "news" that you guys get over there is highly slanted liberal. No, reality has a liberal bias and they are just free of the Right-Wing Propaganda Machine. RE: What the left has devolved to. - Ragnarök_62 - 02-02-2017 Odin (02-02-2017, 08:50 AM)nihilist moron Wrote: I listened to Milo on the news last night. He's surely an attention whore. This is why the university should have never allowed him to speak in the first place. His whole shtick is to incite violence by being as offensive as possible, that is the whole point, he doesn't actually believe any of the nonsense he spouts. He's the guy who shouts "FIRE" in a crowded theater and then blames people stampeding for the exits for the people who died in the panic. Offensive in what way? Triggering? Ya know being triggered depends on the person, right? Rags gets triggered by SJW's spewing their shit and being all being self righteous and shit. I don't go around black bloccing when I see stuff I really hate. RE: What the left has devolved to. - SomeGuy - 02-02-2017 (02-02-2017, 07:36 PM)taramarie Wrote:(02-02-2017, 07:31 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(02-02-2017, 07:05 PM)taramarie Wrote: Rags, sorry that you are blind and deaf to what goes on over there in your own country. Begging the question, a poor translation of the Latin petitio principii, assuming the initial point. It's a logical fallacy. He's saying that your conclusion "Rags, sorry that you are blind and deaf to what goes on over there in your own country" is based on a premise for which you have provided no evidence. |