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In reactions to issues with little business impact, enough big businesses have left Trump's advisory councils that they are being disbanded.
To me, this is excellent news as the big businesses have just voluntarily given up their most important channel for influencing the administration. It's just one battle, but in the war between the elites and the people, it's a battle lost by the elites.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/346827...defections
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Donald Trump has become a detriment to marketing.
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08-17-2017, 03:14 AM
(This post was last modified: 08-17-2017, 03:22 AM by Einzige.)
LMAO. As ever, Warren Drew's analysis is somewhere between functionally retarded and vegetative.
This stunt costs these CEOs nothing. Trump's business councils met a handful of times, and never with a quorum of their members. Indeed, this is simply going to strengthen the position of Capital.
Workplaces need stability and businesses can't afford to alienate huge market shares, after all, which virtually requires them to embrace an anodyne social liberalism - nothing genuinely radical or transformative, of course, and with a coercive fist inside the velvet glove of bland corporate jargonese.
Soon enough, corporate culture is going to be the only culture anyone has. And the present crisis is the perfect opening for it: the Left is politically impotent, without a base in class politics of any kind. This is why it's so ironic that an 'Antifa' movement - which ostensibly looks back to the post-War Stalinist movement of the same name in Germany - seems to be taking its cues business executives in the struggle against the fash. We have entered an era of private coercion on a mass scale, and it isn't going to stop at the recent resurgence of white supremacy. The same logic will be used to justify exclusionary policies against economic dissenters come the next real economic downturn in the West. And the liberals who have postured as being 'anti-business' with no real analysis behind it are going to embrace it wholeheartedly, lest THE NAZIS rear their ugly heads again.
Business is going to more and more become the vector for 'liberal' social change. And why shouldn't it be? That's the entire idea behind classical liberalism, after all: that the market, left to its own devices, would impose a kind of egalitarianism on society, not out of the goodness of its heart but because it can function in no other way. We're living out this process. And we will increasingly live it, as long as liberals perceive business as the only guarantor of equality. And if it happens to create mechanisms by which Capital can tamp down on legitimate economic unrest at some future date, why, so much the better for it. "Report a Nazi to your nearest Facebook moderator" can easily become "report a food rioter to your nearest Facebook moderator", after all.
These fascists are basically strawmen for business interests, but not in the way you might think. They're not a legitimate contender for State power and are in no position to seize it, but the Left is too weak to openly confront them. So liberals will turn to the loving arms of business to suppress them, and get more than they bargained for in the process.
Trumpism is going to lose to a bizarre army of déclassé left-liberals with Bis Business at its helm. This is inevitable now; capitalism cannot long elevate one of its own to the head of its ranks.
Also, Warren, you're a middle-class Baby Boomer twat. You don't represent "the People". You don't represent jack shit.
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I think I'll leave this here. All I'll say is it seems to me that the business plot against Roosevelt is playing out again. Anyone who thinks 2016 wasn't the regeneracy is brain dead.
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And this time business will have its way. And why shouldn't they? The Trumpites worship Capital; now watch Capital eat one of its own.
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(08-18-2017, 08:21 AM)Einzige Wrote: And this time business will have its way. And why shouldn't they? The Trumpites worship Capital; now watch Capital eat one of its own.
Trump was never more than a rent collector.
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LOL, he lost Carl Icahn. The two biggest grifters of the eighties are now at loggerheads.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/18/carl-ica...-role.html
Quote: Carl Icahn announced Friday that he is stepping down from his role as special advisor to President Donald Trump on regulation.
In a letter to the president posted to Icahn's website, the billionaire investor said the decision came after a Friday conversation between the two men. Icahn wrote that he made the decision with the president's blessing.
The famed investor said he resigned from the role to avoid "partisan bickering" about his position. Icahn said he did not want that scrutiny to affect the Trump administration's work on regulatory reform.
The billionaire had been a frequent critic of Obama-era rules. He previously said the EPA was one of the worst-run agencies he had ever seen.
Icahn also took the opportunity to again insist that he "never had a formal position with your administration nor a policymaking role." He reiterated that his advisory position did not give him access to nonpublic information.
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http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/08/charl...stand.html
Quote: Meanwhile, Facebook is also taking rare steps to stop the spread of the Daily Stormer’s Heather Heyer blog, removing shares from user’s profiles. It’s probably worth noting that Facebook played a significant role in the ghastly screed’s spread by featuring it in the algorithm-powered news section, where it was shared more the 65,000 times. According to the Verge, moderators are now removing Facebook posts linking to the article that don’t explicitly condemn the Daily Stormer’s writing. For months, CEO Mark Zuckerberg has hemmed and hawed about how limiting speech on the platform is detrimental to an open dialogue, but now the company seems more open to acknowledging that not everyone deserves to leverage the platform.
In the mean time, smaller platforms are reckoning with their role as seemingly neutral tools for internet users of all ilks. GoFundMe shut down multiple fundraisers yesterday that intended to raise legal funds for James Fields, the driver arrested and charged with Heyer’s death. The service cited rules against fundraisers promoting abusive behavior and hate speech. Slack-like chat service Discord also shut down an alt-right server.
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(08-17-2017, 03:14 AM)Einzige Wrote: Also, Warren, you're a middle-class Baby Boomer twat. You don't represent "the People". You don't represent jack shit.
Ooh, looks like I hit a nerve.
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Your rank stupidity, yes, in the sense it pains me that a fellow brain with legs can be so useless.
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(08-21-2017, 05:30 PM)Einzige Wrote: Your rank stupidity, yes, in the sense it pains me that a fellow brain with legs can be so useless.
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that Warren can be used as a door stop which still makes him less useless than Eric. 
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(08-16-2017, 08:43 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: In reactions to issues with little business impact, enough big businesses have left Trump's advisory councils that they are being disbanded.
To me, this is excellent news as the big businesses have just voluntarily given up their most important channel for influencing the administration. It's just one battle, but in the war between the elites and the people, it's a battle lost by the elites.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/346827...defections
No their main channel for influence is still open. Policy is developed by the various departments, in which business still has plenty of say. The point of the council was to discuss legislation the president might push. This president doesn't do that, so there is no point in having a council. Besides, few still think Congress is going to pass anything by the end of the year and then the election will shut everything down. After the election the GOP won't have sufficient-sized majorities to pass anything w/o Democratic votes and that will be that. Trump probably isn't going to run again, so it seems over.
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(08-22-2017, 02:29 PM)Mikebert Wrote: (08-16-2017, 08:43 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: In reactions to issues with little business impact, enough big businesses have left Trump's advisory councils that they are being disbanded.
To me, this is excellent news as the big businesses have just voluntarily given up their most important channel for influencing the administration. It's just one battle, but in the war between the elites and the people, it's a battle lost by the elites.
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/346827...defections
No their main channel for influence is still open. Policy is developed by the various departments, in which business still has plenty of say. The point of the council was to discuss legislation the president might push. This president doesn't do that, so there is no point in having a council. Besides, few still think Congress is going to pass anything by the end of the year and then the election will shut everything down. After the election the GOP won't have sufficient-sized majorities to pass anything w/o Democratic votes and that will be that. Trump probably isn't going to run again, so it seems over.
Just to amplify on the importance of the executive departments to the business community: look who's running things. The EPA under Scott Pruitt can impact the bottom like of almost every large and most mid-sized businesses in the US. Interior is handing out contracts for mineral and energy projects like candy on Halloween. Commerce and Labor will guarantee that the money goes where the oligarchs want it go, and Justice will kill any anti-trust or other legal cases in their infancy.
And that's just a quick skim. A deep dive would reveal much more.
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