Trump’s Golf Costs: $102 Million And Counting, With Taxpayers Picking Up The Tab

[Tan7]

Trump’s Golf Costs: $102 Million And Counting, With Taxpayers Picking Up The Tab

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/...pEu#page=2

[pbrower2a]

Disgusting, isn't it?

I can understand a President seeking to attend the Masters or a Pebble Beach tournament. His own golf property?

[Eric the Green]

Where are the tea party activists on this one? Willingly spending their taxed-enough-already wampum on their hero's pleasures.

[Marypoza]

(05-27-2019, 03:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Where are the tea party activists on this one? Willingly spending their taxed-enough-already wampum on their hero's pleasures.

-- they make an exception 4 their idol

[jolo]

This feels like Obama's 3rd term.

[Marypoza]

(05-28-2019, 06:51 PM)jolo Wrote: This feels like Obama's 3rd term.

-- yup

[Ragnarök_62]

(05-27-2019, 03:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Where are the tea party activists on this one? Willingly spending their taxed-enough-already wampum on their hero's pleasures.

Has it occurred to you and some others might be some nice big fat fish in that perhaps, maybe, tan7 is a troll?

In fact, I give a 90 percent chance that tan7 id indeed a troll. A post with nothing but a big red hyperlink kinda gives it away, eh?

[David Horn]

(05-28-2019, 10:57 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(05-27-2019, 03:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Where are the tea party activists on this one? Willingly spending their taxed-enough-already wampum on their hero's pleasures.

Has it occurred to you and some others might be some nice big fat fish in that perhaps, maybe, tan7 is a troll?

In fact, I give a 90 percent chance that tan7 id indeed a troll. A post with nothing but a big red hyperlink kinda gives it away, eh?

(S)he may be trolling, but the numbers look pretty tight.

[Kinser79]

(05-28-2019, 10:57 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:

(05-27-2019, 03:25 PM)Eric the Green Wrote: Where are the tea party activists on this one? Willingly spending their taxed-enough-already wampum on their hero's pleasures.

Has it occurred to you and some others might be some nice big fat fish in that perhaps, maybe, tan7 is a troll?

In fact, I give a 90 percent chance that tan7 id indeed a troll. A post with nothing but a big red hyperlink kinda gives it away, eh?

Tan7 is probably a troll. 

What I want to know is why anyone should give a shit about the President playing golf.  Most of the expense is the Presidential security that all Presidents get and that would be the case regardless of who was President.  Now if someone wants to make the argument that maybe Presidents don't need 102 million (which in the federal budget is pocket change) worth of security then I'd be willing to hear that argument.

[David Horn]

(05-30-2019, 11:07 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Tan7 is probably a troll. 

What I want to know is why anyone should give a shit about the President playing golf.  Most of the expense is the Presidential security that all Presidents get and that would be the case regardless of who was President.  Now if someone wants to make the argument that maybe Presidents don't need 102 million (which in the federal budget is pocket change) worth of security then I'd be willing to hear that argument.

Since the Orange One made a Federal case whining about Obama's golf outings, it's on him. Bitch to him.

[Ragnarök_62]

(05-30-2019, 12:24 PM)David Horn Wrote:

(05-30-2019, 11:07 AM)Kinser79 Wrote: Tan7 is probably a troll. 

What I want to know is why anyone should give a shit about the President playing golf.  Most of the expense is the Presidential security that all Presidents get and that would be the case regardless of who was President.  Now if someone wants to make the argument that maybe Presidents don't need 102 million (which in the federal budget is pocket change) worth of security then I'd be willing to hear that argument.

Since the Orange One made a Federal case whining about Obama's golf outings, it's on him.  Bitch to him.

True enough.  Here's what gets me though.  Why can't the lamestream media do at least something right and get the hypocrisy up front and center. Just start and yes start the newscast or how about a headline stating. "Trump bogeys on the gold course by exceeding even Obama's golf expenses by a drive shot."  Digital media can just play clips of Trump's golf outing, A Trump campaign shot where he bitches about Obama, a big red screen with black letters with the relevant facts and figures, cycle this with different Trump campaign bitch session, a different clip of Trump's golf outing, red sign, with sufficient repeats to ensure the message get across. <- Some focus groups would help tune up the iterations/exact content.  Of course, some Republicans will bitch that the final product is a political campaign. It isn't to Rags though. The "story" is actually news since Trump was the one who bitched about it probably on Twatter, so that's the news. The clips of Trump bitching are the back story to provide context. The red sign is a new innovation. It ties everything together in a nice tidy bundle.   I mean, the red sign is key since it simply lays out the facts in red and black, which makes the communication very clear. The colors are also key. Those are the colors that make folks angry. Those colors bring forth visions of ants and snakes.

[lawstudent]

Americans scream Obama must be jailed for wiretapping Trump, but no one cares that Trump is wiretapping
everyone.

[David Horn]

(06-02-2019, 08:16 AM)lawstudent Wrote: Americans scream Obama must be jailed for wiretapping Trump, but no one cares that Trump is wiretapping everyone.

I find DJT too incompetent to actually make that work, his intentions to the contrary.  Sometimes, incompetence is a virtue.  Attorney General Barr, on the other hand, is both adequately competent a devious enough.  Focus there!

[Unicorn]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-sig...44667.html

[David Horn]

(06-05-2019, 11:24 PM)Unicorn Wrote: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-sig...44667.html

Considering how thoroughly we were hoodwinked during the last election cycle, and the expectation of even more in the next, what alternative do you suggest?  I'm not much on surveillance either, but some is mandatory these days, since others are spying on us 24/7/365.

[David Horn]

(06-07-2019, 02:04 AM)vine Wrote: Yesterday the government wanted your photo.

Today the government wants your fingerprints.

<blah blah blah>

Think.

Pass the word.

The biggest offenders of your privacy -- BY FAR -- are all those new-economy tech giants.  Worry less about the NSA and more about Google, Facebook and Instagram, among others: all tracking you 24/7 using that cellphone you can't leave at home … ever!

[Skabungus]

Vine is a cyclops.

[pbrower2a]

Sybil strikes again!

As for homosexuality being immoral -- homophobia has proved far more dangerous than even what the late Phred Felps said about it.

[Marypoza]

(06-08-2019, 08:06 PM)Jumpy Wrote: The elites love socialism because they want the 99% weakened and dead.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-billion...ton-2015-9

The police state doesn’t protect you. Tyranny helps the elites meet their private prison quotas.

The elites want you to lose your free speech rights and gun rights so you can’t resist.

The elites want you to lose your 4th amendment rights so they can wiretap and frisk you and take your property through asset forfeiture.

The elites want you lose your right to a trial so they can torture and kill you.

Taxation is theft. Quit if you don’t like low pay and don’t buy dangerous food if you don’t like it.

You don’t have to buy from anyone. You don’t have to work at any particular job. You don’t have to participate in any given relationship. You can choose.

The big difference between private business and tyranny is that you can boycott the free market, but the government forces you at gunpoint to do something or not do something.

The USSR failed.

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-chillin...lag-2015-3

The elites control Hollywood, the media, Wall Street, and the government.

Almost nothing major happens in the US without the approval of the elites.

Debt benefits the elites.

Nanny state laws help our overlords meet their private private quotas.

There are wars because the 1% owns the defense companies and they want more refugees to reduce wages.

There are food stamps because the 1% owns the food corporations and makes money from the bank fees.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/1...78457.html

The ruling class supports Obamacare and mandatory liability insurance laws because they make money from insurance premiums.

The elites support illegal immigration because they want to divide the population.

The 1% supports homosexuality because immorality weakens the US.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1748122/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0467406/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0879870/

https://us.benetton.com

When was the last time you saw a movie about the Bill of Rights, freedom, or family values?

Why are immorality, blacks, and illegal immigrants praised, but morality and white men are ridiculed?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2015/07/15/emo...-at-espys/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/17/cnn-an...mmigrants/

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/02/chris-...-catholic/

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index...poste.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/gary-john...-is-2016-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sup...tt-2016-12

What if the reason the 99% are not in concentration camps now is because the US Ponzi economy has not collapsed yet and Americans still have guns?

http://markanderson.bangordailynews.com/...zi-scheme/

Why is anyone who supports immorality, war, debt, welfare, tyranny, and illegal immigrants is labeled normal, but anyone who supports morals, peace, a balanced budget, personal responsibility, freedom, and reduced immigration is called a spammer, troll, shill, bot, racist, junkie, retard, or nutjob and is censored, banned, gets an IRS audit, is arrested, or killed?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/marylan...story.html

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index.ss...or_ha.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national...-1.3226668

The elites don’t care if the US collapses because they live in gated compounds with security guards on private islands, go to private schools, and have private jets to fly them to private airports.

Freedom is not your enemy. Tyranny is the enemy.

Wake up.

Think.

Pass the word.

http://bunkerchan.xyz/dprk/

-- I'm thinking Vine is now Jumpy

[pbrower2a]

(06-09-2019, 03:09 AM)MVL2 Wrote: Doesn't the US have a $22 trillion debt?

Let's put it this way: if you contract to make a $22K debt to buy a car, then you have just created an asset. (As I do not like to plug extant corporations, I will use a defunct one).

So you go to a Packard dealership after you "Ask the person who owns one" (the male chauvinism inherent in Packard's advertising slogan has obviously since been neutered... I have to have some realism!) and you realize that its small car is worth paying the premium for over imports and the similar cars in size of the Big Three. So you make your contract out to Packard Acceptance Corporation, and instead of a car in its inventory, Packard has a contract with you worth $22K on the books. As Packard collects from you it can make investments in plant and equipment, research and development, etc.

When the federal government creates debts it is also creating assets or stimulating the economy. Government contractors get profitable deals subject to federal corporate income taxes and to personal income taxes of the contractors' employees. What the government expends as debt typically returns as tax receipts, according to the model of John Maynard Keynes that is the conventional view in economics. Food aid? You take your food card and go to the nearby A&P... and money goes from the Treasury into A&P, which makes a small profit on your transaction for lobster and asparagus (Ha! ha!). A&P is happy to have a paying customer instead of a shoplifter.

OK -- debt is not evil so long as it comes with an income stream. Electric utilities typically have huge quantities of corporate debt to fund their expensive infrastructure -- but they also have local monopolies on electric power and predictable revenue streams that allow a reliable dividend to investors. If I have borrowed ten million dollars at 4% and get a 7% return and can borrow twenty million dollars for the same proposition, am I a fool to not borrow the twenty million?