Best Tunes from the 2T

[Eric the Green]

(10-25-2016, 12:55 AM)gabrielle Wrote: Again, 3T rock did not lack musical qualities.  But I know I'm not going to get anywhere with you here.

No; I don't know why anyone would deny it. It's so obvious. But then, I'm sure you can find exceptions, and you have; like Bikini Kill. You have posted some good songs, but most of them that I like I don't think you could call "hard rock." (grunge or metal). They were more like ballads, like Tori; good work. And electronica, you posted a couple of good artists there, at least. But you don't seem to mind posting a lot of grunge and hard rock in your "lost years" thread that you know I consider obviously non-musical. I'm always willing to give music in any genre a try, though.

For me, the first half of the 3T were good times. But I didn't live in the world of pop culture; only in fringe new age culture. As I said, there was enough there to keep me engaged in those days; very much promoting it too. Some Gen Xers involved, to be sure, especially in the rave/electronica culture of the 90s.

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Quote:Off hand I can't remember other female Gen Xers who have posted about music here.

I remember at least one on the old forum (not Felix, I don't think she was Gen X).  

Well, I don't remember any either, then. Just You The ones you mean I suspect were late boomers. I know you have pretty good taste, at least outside the 3T; I can't account for your liking of 3T hard rock, except that it's what you grew up with. We all want to be hip with what's going on at that age. For me, what was hip was the new age culture, but I was in my 30s.

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Quote:I'll listen to that one later. But as for punk rock, I still want (musical) quality in my music; no excuses. But pop punk and/or post punk had some good stuff, I think (as you know).

70s/80s post-punk, yes, but pop punk, like Green Day and Blink 182, not so much.  Just a week ago a young coworker and Green Day fan was telling me that that band was charging their fans $400 for a "VIP package" to their show (which apparently includes early access to seating and merch counter, some free trinkets and a Subway sandwich).  No real punk rock band would do anything like that.  The music doesn't really do a lot for me, either.

Green Day is a fine group; good music and fine post-punk or pop punk or whatever you want to call it. I don't know Blink 182. There are others I like; it can be a good genre. But the "real punk" from the earlier 3T and late 2T; no thanks; my same overall judgement applies to that genre as to heavy metal and grunge. At least I haven't heard much that I like. The examples that Kepi posted were horrible. If those genres and rap had other qualities besides the musical that make them interesting, I wouldn't deny at all. But for me; no excuses for bad music.

I know there's always exceptions to my judgements; so please don't judge me too harshly for them. I also like some of the new wave from the turn of the 3T, as I've said. It was better than late 2T disco, for sure. That Crass song seems like sexy girl punk. It was OK. I'm not real sure where the line between punk and new wave is.