11-10-2016, 09:54 PM
(11-10-2016, 09:34 PM)playwrite Wrote:(11-10-2016, 09:01 PM)Copperfield Wrote:(11-10-2016, 08:43 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:(11-10-2016, 08:11 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(11-10-2016, 08:08 PM)Copperfield Wrote: So Rags, where do you suppose California secessionists will be getting their water from? As I know you are fond of investment in resources, could you please provide Eric with an estimate (in Calidollars) what it will cost him to fill his greatest basic need?
* Fuck! America is such an endless source of entertainment for me. The knee-jerk reactions are priceless. 370 million mental infants whose only sense of the world around them is putting an object in their mouth (be it a lego or a dog turd).
I'd say electricity supply is a big issue.
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information...icity.aspx
Wind energy supply map
http://windeis.anl.gov/guide/maps/map2.html
http://www.nrel.gov/gis/images/eere_csp/...012-01.jpg
I guess California ought to get a shitpot of solar or nuclear plants built so it won't have to import it.
Though... Rags wouldn't mind selling Oklahoma's extra wind derived electricity under some sort of Enrob plan.
Quote:We're largely self sufficient with water. All but one source is completely within the state line.
Whadda about climate change and the drought?
Quote:The water from the Colorado would however be an interesting case. But not unknown. There are other cases of rivers forming national borders, where both countries draw.
I think some sort of agreement with Mexico could be arranged to give y'all a bit more water. Y'all may need some desal plants or Rags can provide some Oklahoma water for a fee.
Yeah those natural resources can be a real bitch can't they. I wouldn't give away your water for free though Rags. Surely they must have something of value to trade other than population. They do have some timber and mineral resources but those aren't exactly exclusive to California...
You ever hear of the Iphone?
Yours is typical 19th Century thinking. You all would turn into just another Russia or Saudia Arabia; we'd play you off of one another and have back up from our Canadian and Mexican allies. You'd basically be our captured suppliers. Foreign aid to keep you afloat and in line.
The amount of money Californians send to the feds to redistribute to you all would instead fund enough de-sal plants that CA would be an net exporter of water. They'd probable could make the CO River reverse direction to help their partnered states of NV and CO with the secondary benefit of keeping both AZ and UT on the leash until they get it together enough (e.g. exporting their ammosexuals to some other Red State backwoods) for a successful petition for entry to the Blue States of America.
You mean those devices made in China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan (pretty much anywhere not California)? Don't use one personally. There are plenty of far cheaper smartphones with identical technology (and a headphone jack). Never been much on purchasing status symbols personally. That's generally a California/NYC thing. Of course after you folks secede, you may need to turn a little more towards function over form. I think it will be good for you. Those city dwellers crammed into the really tight spaces will be running low on those little things like food. Once they run out, they are going to start looking to some of those nicer gated communities just outside the city limits. Unless you plan to start feeding them Iphones...
Or maybe you folks will start learning how to trade really fucking fast (hint: be polite!). Who knows. Sure will be fun to watch though.
The single despot stands out in the face of all men, and says: I am the State: My will is law: I am your master: I take the responsibility of my acts: The only arbiter I acknowledge is the sword: If any one denies my right, let him try conclusions with me. -- Lysander Spooner