I VOTE YES ON CALEXIT!

[Eric the Green]

(11-14-2016, 03:02 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:

(11-13-2016, 10:18 AM)Odin Wrote: The Democratic Party is stuck in a bubble. It's not just their tone-deafness in the presidential campaign, but also it's complete, utter lack of attention to state and local races.

The Dems have three huge problems right now. One is that they need to get out of the "every populist is McGovern 2.0" mentality that was behind the antipathy to Sanders. Another is that the Dems have to go back to compromising on social issues in more conservative areas, the main ones being abortion and guns. The last is that the party needs to drop the sneering elitism you see oozing from the liberal intelligentsia that sees white Middle America as "a problem" to be neutralized rather than a demographic to be courted.

You're 100% correct. In addition to this, although they apparently don't realize it, the GOP needs to undergo its own reckoning. The supposed win (which was really the culmination of an ultimately destructive Alt-Right putsch) last week has blinded many GOPers to their own death spiral.

No he's not 100% correct. I already corrected him:

Your first is correct. Your second is correct on abortion, but not on guns, since they have already compromised as far as they need to go on guns; which is quite a long ways. Your third is irrelevant since the Democratic Party does not sneer at Middle America. (you may accuse me of doing that, but I am not even a Democrat.) But it was not courted adequately in this election, according to some reports. Mostly, the Obama coalition did not turn out strongly enough for Hillary in places like Milwaukee. It's hard to win with candidates who are not talented at campaigning, and have too-little charisma. 

(IOW, they need to pay attention to my horoscope scores  )

She didn't show the passionate concern for those working class people in the Rust Belt that Trump showed, even if he fooled them. They are natural Democrats but they slipped away.

Didn't you hear Hillary's statements on guns at the debate? Very tepid and moderate already.