11-16-2016, 04:52 AM
(11-15-2016, 02:22 PM)X_4AD_84 Wrote:(11-15-2016, 01:44 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: So I repeat my question to you: are you willing to give Trump a chance? Are you willing to work to help point his administration in a more conservative direction, as opposed to a progressive one? Because if you aren't, there's no chance of Eric being willing to.
If you insist on opposition, I think you should be talking about how you can work with the likes of Eric and doing things their way, rather than them working with you, because they outnumber you by a rather large factor.
Too early for me to say whether or not I would give Trump a chance. Here would be some of my conditions:
- Disown the Alt-Right et al.
- See the light that Russia (and more generally the SCO) is an enemy.
- Apologize for all the terrible rhetoric of the dog whistle, misogynist, etc variety. That sort of goes with my first point.
Good luck on all this. He's not likely to change.
Trump has said he wants to be a President for all Americans. "Disowning" any specific group, including the alt right, would go back on that pledge. That's the politics of division of the progressive left, and not conservatism of any sort.
What would be much better would be for Trump to use his position - and the bully pulpit - to make it clear that his victory is not an excuse for his supporters to espouse racism. He is doing that, and better yet, the press is no longer successfully hiding it:
Quote:Trump to supporters harassing minorities: 'Stop it'http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/13/politics/d...index.html
Donald Trump on Sunday told his supporters to stop harassing minorities, in his first televised sit-down interview since becoming President-elect.
"I am so saddened to hear that," Trump told CBS' Lesley Stahl on "60 Minutes" when she said Latinos and Muslims are facing harassment. "And I say, 'Stop it.' If it -- if it helps, I will say this, and I will say right to the cameras: 'Stop it.'"
Trump directed his comments to his own supporters whom Stahl said have written racist slogans or chanted degrading messages -- particularly in schools. It was a powerful appeal to a nation ripped apart by the divisive 2016 campaign.
And while there's no sign Trump is considering Russia an active enemy, there are definite signs that he doesn't consider them an ally.
He hasn't used any racist or misogynistic rhetoric, so he doesn't have anything to apologize for there. Granted the mainstream press, in their rush to try to push Clinton into the White House, portrayed things that way, but if you look carefully you'll see their reports have always been short on direct quotes. And as pointed out above, he's reining in supporters who do use such rhetoric.