11-16-2016, 04:02 PM
(11-16-2016, 03:15 PM)taramarie Wrote:(11-16-2016, 03:06 PM)pbrower2a Wrote:(11-16-2016, 02:55 PM)taramarie Wrote: "What do you think of turning the Tea Party rhetoric to use against the Trump Administration and its surrogates when they misbehave?"
I think it is childish. I also think going as low as the opposition is not the right way to go about it.
I also question how much of a positive impact it makes...meaning is it effective for the outcome you are going for. Are you wanting people on the opposite side to come over to the Dems or are you wanting equality? Are you wanting them to change their ways? What is the Democrats message? Are they wanting equality and if so why attack certain groups of people like whites as if they are all the enemy?Is that an effective strategy to get them to change their ways? Is it wise to think that all of them are the same and to label them as ignorant to (insert the plight of minorities). Tearing people down in order to build up in my opinion is unwise. I am not interested in tearing things down. But it seems some do not know when to stop tearing down.
I doubt that we could ever stoop to the irrationality and mean-spiritedness of the Tea Party, not that we would want to. Thus no equivalent of "The Zoo Has an African Lion" fits Democrats. Disrupting town halls? After what they did to Democrats in 2009 and 2010, Republicans would not risk exposing themselves to their own medicine.
White people are obviously not the problem. We liberals may need to bring back our usual coalition with working-class whites to defeat Donald Trump and Congressional Republicans. So when he pushes for a national right-to-work law and unions oppose such -- join that protest.
Oooh I dunno about that. There are some extremely destructive folk that side with the Dems and they are doing a lot of damage.
"White people are obviously not the problem."
Obviously but then there is white shaming and a lot of that goes on within your party.
I wouldn't trust them. Those could well be the agents-provocateurs of the other side who tell someone to throw a brick and then tell the cops. (Sure, I would take a photo of someone doing a smash-and-grab larceny and supply it to the police as evidence of criminal wrong-doing irrelevant to my cause just as I would take a photo of counter-protester brutality). I more expect counter-protester brutality than police brutality.
We can protest all we want when applicable because such can itself be good citizenship, but we need to be good citizens in other aspects. We are as much against lawlessness of the government as we are of petty crooks that we cannot defend. We must remain civil even if we be necessarily loud.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.