11-21-2016, 06:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-21-2016, 06:36 AM by Bob Butler 54.)
(11-20-2016, 05:51 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:(11-20-2016, 07:29 AM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote: There are enough people on this forum anticipating the worst, rousing up anger and distrust for stuff he hasn't had a chance to do yet. Fine. Enjoy yourselves. There is plausible reason to anticipate the worst. I'm just concerned that minds are being closed by the hatred and paranoia.
You may be projecting here. There isn't anyone on this forum whose posts are more paranoid about Trump than yours are.
That seems a strange comment. I know Eric and a few others are beating me in number of posts and intense partisanship. I've been making some efforts to convince him to tone down his style to the point that those with who aren't already convinced might listen.
But partisan is different from paranoid, perhaps. How do you measure paranoia? Fear of something with no evidence of its likelihood? Would you care to give a few examples?
I will admit to thinking the high number of lobbyists alleged to be on the short list for high government office has me concerned that he will be heavily pro robber baron, that his promises to 'drain the swamp' aren't going to be honored. I will admit that his continued 3:00 AM tweets dissing those to diss him makes me concerned that the childish tantrums thrown against any who oppose him are going to continue. This reflects questionable temperament and a lack of people skills that are apt to make it difficult for him to govern. I admit I find his campaign promises to push borrow and spend trickle down extremely troubling given the history of what happens under those policies. Bleeding Main Street dry to gratify Easy Street is just bad policy. What happened under the Bush administrations should give reason enough for concern. I am concerned that the racist and sexist attitudes he voiced during the campaign have encouraged bigots and alarmed their victims, stirring a pot better left unstirred.
Some of these concerns will be confirmed or not within a few months. We will see soon enough his final cabinet choices, and how well he can work with Congress. It takes longer to ruin the economy, and racist / sexist undercurrents are hard to predict. Depending on how partisan one is and in which direction, the above concerns and many others might already be considered confirmed with perceived good cause, or they might be perceived as cheap partisan lies and attacks by a hostile media, or otherwise dismissed as unimportant. I've seen enough direct evidence, much of it coming directly from Trump's mouth or Twitter account, that I perceive my concerns as valid. Alas, whether these concerns are considered real or paranoia depends on one's personal values. People can perceive what confirms their values much better than they can perceive that which opposes them.
Anyway, I'd rather talk issues than answer personal attacks. If you could slant your posts that way, it would be appreciated.
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