11-25-2016, 04:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-25-2016, 04:51 PM by Eric the Green.)
(11-25-2016, 04:24 PM)tg63 Wrote:(11-25-2016, 10:20 AM)anandrajan Wrote: ... All it would take is to (i) inform everyone of Bannon's apocalyptic craziness, (ii) talk to white nationalists if possible and explain the clear cut vision of the next 1T and (iii) reach high profile Trump supporters like Scott Adams (Dilbert) via twitter etc. and explain how the Trump presidency is likely to go off the rails (global financial crisis, actual WW III etc.).
Even if your assumption is true, and I don't think it is, I still think informing isn't enough. Convincing would be required. And as you can see there are so many diverse viewpoints around that I'm pretty sure that's not achievable at any kind of mass scale.
Ultimately I believe that the reason the 4T happens is due to an increasing sense of urgency; that things are so bad that we must do something, anything ... but the status quo is not an option. And that seems to be where we are. Awareness of the cycles wouldn't change that.
It's too early to say if awareness of the saeculum might lessen the danger of a 4T. First, of course, though the public is aware of Strauss and Howe's generation of "millennials," for which they coined the name, the public is not so much aware of the saeculum and the turnings, except for a few folks-- apparently including Al Gore and Steve Bannon.
But I notice awareness of a cycle can sometimes bring it to an end in astrology, if that means anything. The best example is the 20-year Jupiter-Saturn assassination/death in office cycle. After JFK, presidents have been more careful and better protected. The cycle itself became quite famous. Nancy Reagan even used astrology to advise her husband, who was next on the list of victims if the cycle had held. And she knew all about it. He did just miss getting assassinated "by inches" in 1981.
I think the "Saturn Return" has some notoriety too, which may explain why candidates are now more reluctant to run for president when they are between 55 and 59 years old. We haven't had as many presidents run when their Saturn Return was due. George W. Bush braved it, and suffered through its tribulations; but Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Mario Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo and others begged off at the right time. The last major party nominees who were defeated when a Saturn Return was due were the series of Democrats who lost in the 1980s. But that's just when astrology became more famous. Although Howard Dean ran when his was due, and then he screamed.