Why rural voters don’t vote Democratic anymore

[Kinser79]

(12-03-2016, 05:54 AM)Galen Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 05:42 AM)taramarie Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 05:34 AM)Galen Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 05:27 AM)taramarie Wrote: If it were up to me segregation seems best so to allow people to live their desired way of life the way they want to....but there would be relocation issues so it is not possible. Mere pie in the sky.

You picked a bad example with abortion because of the complexity of the issue and the fact that from a certain point of view a life is involved.  Given the libertarian view on secession, you have to admit that libertarians have a similar view on the solution as you do.  Pity the liberals and progressives will not accept such a solution.  Ironically, the red necks would be perfectly happy with your solution.  There lies the difference between the red necks and the left.

A life is at stake either way due to if it is banned a woman who is desperate to have the abortion will find other methods like underground methods or knitting needle. I am sure you are aware how dangerous that is. It is just what will happen unfortunately. Cannot stop that. But can make it safer methods and even preventative methods.

Either way a life is at risk. So I do not think it was a bad example. As for culturally concerned conservatives being happy with the solution I will have to believe that to see it. One on one basis too. Aaaanyway time for kiwis to hop to bed. Will be back in a few hours to see how this conversation has progressed. Interesting topic.

This is why libertarians on the whole tend not to want to impose a solution from above the way liberals and progressives do.  With the degree of centralization that exists in the US there is a tendency to use the Federal Government as a club to beat opponents over the head with.  You haven't really spent much time around the red necks in the US and the mainstream media is less than reliable.

And here we come to the crux of the 4T again. Over centralization of the governmental powers at the federal level in the US.

As to abortion I still consider its legality a necessary evil rather than a positive good. Myself I'd prefer to limit them as much as possible through a combination of economic growth, promotion of the heterosexual family unit, and liberalization of adoption procedures.

@Tara,

I strongly suggest that you check out the US's alternative media as well as the mainstream media. Indeed you'll find more truth with the alternatives. As to dealing with the red necks, the sad fact is that the MSM has a narrative about them, an untrue narrative.