Why rural voters don’t vote Democratic anymore

[Galen]

(12-03-2016, 10:34 PM)playwrite Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 10:17 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 08:58 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: The religious right and the atheist left would no doubt each love to use government to force their views on each other.  However, the gun issue doesn't work the same way, which is why I highlighted it.

On many such issues you can see someone claiming a right to live free, and another trying to prevent an evil using government authority.  The right to chose and the right to keep and bear can be seen as rights where one is and ought to be free to choose.  Gun deaths and the deaths of the unborn can be seen as evils.  If you wish to restrict the conversation to one issue only, sure, go ahead, but I'm not so inclined.  

These are but two of many issues separating the rural and urban populations.  I would like to nudge things in the direction of freedom and rights, and away from quashing evils when there is sizable and intense disagreement on whether the evil is truly evil or not.

I would think a lot of Libertarians would lean the same way.

(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

I would take exception to describing the libertarian conspiracy as 'vast'.

I wouldn't underestimate the size of the r-libertarian coalition that is now taking shape. Think about it. Kinser and Classic, a gay black man and a straight white guy, a Marxist and an American capitalist, a cosmopolitan and a suburbanite, a believer and a non believer united and now perceived/seen as being on the same side. I don't have a problem with Democratic voters being allowed inside the Republican tent. I don't have a problem with people like Kinser being allowed in the Republican tent either. The Republican door swings both ways. The Republican door doesn't lock behind you and force you stay inside. I have more issues with the progressive minded blue base than I've had had with Kinser himself.

LIbertarians, my ass.  You don't know what the word means.

You just voted for a guy who believes that the government decides what business win and lose.  He just arranged millions in tax cuts for a corporation so they leave some jobs behind.  You do realize he would have to make 8,600 similiar arrangements to meet Obama's economy that has grow 8,600,000 jobs.  Maybe you should look up the original defintition of facism - it's a binding together of industry and government - making government about as big as it can get - the direct opposite goal of any real Libertarian.

Most of the time libertarians, myself included, tend either to vote Libertarian and avoid voting for a major party candidate.  None of us are particularly happy with Trump in many respects but instead regarded Hillary as far more dangerous and corrupt.  For my own part I voted for Trump simply to avoid war with Russia.  Judging from his appointments it looks like he intends to keep that promise.  You are correct that I am not happy about giving any company special favors.  I don't have any particular problem with his tax reductions except that they don't go far enough.

My main concern is that like everyone else before he will not reduce spending along with the tax cuts which will simply move up the day of reckoning.