12-04-2016, 05:32 AM
(12-04-2016, 04:12 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:(12-03-2016, 08:58 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: The religious right and the atheist left would no doubt each love to use government to force their views on each other. However, the gun issue doesn't work the same way, which is why I highlighted it.
On many such issues you can see someone claiming a right to live free, and another trying to prevent an evil using government authority. The right to chose and the right to keep and bear can be seen as rights where one is and ought to be free to choose. Gun deaths and the deaths of the unborn can be seen as evils. If you wish to restrict the conversation to one issue only, sure, go ahead, but I'm not so inclined.
These are but two of many issues separating the rural and urban populations. I would like to nudge things in the direction of freedom and rights, and away from quashing evils when there is sizable and intense disagreement on whether the evil is truly evil or not.
I would think a lot of Libertarians would lean the same way.
(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:
I would take exception to describing the libertarian conspiracy as 'vast'.
I would not, since it applies not just to the Libertarian Party but to Reaganomics/trickle-down-- the whole free-market caboodle. Conspiracy: spend much, tax little, increase the debt, and thus reduce the size of government to fit in a bathtub. Precisely stated as such by the conspirators; widely proliferated conspiracy. And it's the biggest problem that we have today.
As usual you miss the irony, libertarians tend to be pretty up front about their free-market view point. You just can't stand the idea of people making their own decisions and dealing with the consequences of them, for better or worse. By the way libertarians have a big problem with government spending you are just too self absorbed, like most Boomers, to notice.
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. -- H.L. Mencken
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises
If one rejects laissez faire on account of man's fallibility and moral weakness, one must for the same reason also reject every kind of government action. -- Ludwig von Mises