Why rural voters don’t vote Democratic anymore

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(12-07-2016, 08:44 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-06-2016, 05:09 PM)Mikebert Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 10:17 PM)Classic-Xer Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 08:58 PM)Bob Butler 54 Wrote:

(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: The religious right and the atheist left would no doubt each love to use government to force their views on each other.  However, the gun issue doesn't work the same way, which is why I highlighted it.

On many such issues you can see someone claiming a right to live free, and another trying to prevent an evil using government authority.  The right to chose and the right to keep and bear can be seen as rights where one is and ought to be free to choose.  Gun deaths and the deaths of the unborn can be seen as evils.  If you wish to restrict the conversation to one issue only, sure, go ahead, but I'm not so inclined.  

These are but two of many issues separating the rural and urban populations.  I would like to nudge things in the direction of freedom and rights, and away from quashing evils when there is sizable and intense disagreement on whether the evil is truly evil or not.

I would think a lot of Libertarians would lean the same way.

(12-03-2016, 08:46 PM)Warren Dew Wrote:

I would take exception to describing the libertarian conspiracy as 'vast'.

I wouldn't underestimate the size of the r-libertarian coalition that is now taking shape. Think about it. Kinser and Classic, a gay black man and a straight white guy, a Marxist and an American capitalist, a cosmopolitan and a suburbanite, a believer and a non believer united and now perceived/seen as being on the same side. I don't have a problem with Democratic voters being allowed inside the Republican tent. I don't have a problem with people like Kinser being allowed in the Republican tent either. The Republican door swings both ways. The Republican door doesn't lock behind you and force you stay inside. I have more issues with the progressive minded blue base than I've had had with Kinser himself.

 Kinser isn't a Marxist anymore. Marxists are extremists, as are their counterparts on the Right like Nazis and White Supremacists. For some reason they seem able to shift from one extreme to another without ever going through the middle.  Most folks, like me and I suspect you move from point A to point B by traveling though the terrain in between.  He don't just start at one point in one instant and appear at another in the next.  But folks like Kinser do.

I bet he's still a Marxist at heart. Kinser doesn't have any interest in the Nazi's and White Supremacists. Come on, a gay black guy isn't going to join forces with them for obvious reasons. I eventually got into it with one of them not so long ago. It wasn't a pretty exchange as usual. Kinser is a much better writer than me.

Even I agree with you on Kinser except that I see no heart in him. I think he supports Donald Trump because he will make America so corrupt, inequitable, and otherwise miserable that it will be ripe for a Socialist insurrection of his choosing. He may see Donald Trump as America's equivalent of Fulgencio Batista.