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Cycles of the 4T
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(12-12-2016, 02:55 AM)Eric the Green Wrote:
(12-09-2016, 09:26 AM)radind Wrote:
(12-09-2016, 09:14 AM)Warren Dew Wrote:
(12-09-2016, 04:47 AM)Arkarch Wrote:
(11-12-2016, 06:20 PM)Warren Dew Wrote: Let's look at this a little closer.

Protestants -> whites (or even white protestants)
Catholics -> immigrants  (or even Catholic immigrants)
James II Declaration of Indulgence -> Obama executive amnesty for immigrants
Glorious Revolution -> election of 2016

Retreat to Ireland -> Calexit?

I think I can believe this only if California really secedes.

As far-fetched as it is, I could see a Calexit result.

Lets say Trump starts a Trade War with China that has an adverse impact on California's high tech economy.  California reacts.  Trumps religious right cronies get all heated and attempt to "cleanup" California.  Services withheld.  Money withheld.  Spirals economically.  I know we fought a civil war 160 years ago - but I dont think Trump would play Lincoln.  His base already has disdain for California, so they may just let it happen.  "Good Riddance" they would say.

edit - should add certain California Institutions such as the State Legislature LAUSD, etc have already issued defensive decisions in opposition to Trump - such as no-tell on children immigration status.  Also a new poll shows that Trump's supporters dont think California results should be in the national election.   And yes, as the world's sixth largest economy, I think if California kept all taxes, it would be in better economic shape (maybe, never fully studied that).

That actually makes it sound plausible.  We don't even need the trade war; I think it's likely that some money will be withheld from "sanctuary cities", and I could see the immigration issue turning California into a sanctuary state.

I do think Trump would do whatever was necessary to keep California in the US, though.  I doubt his vision of "making America great again" involves its breaking up.
I don't want the USA to break up and I doubt that Trump wants a breakup.

Are he and his supporters ready to enforce their will on Callifornia, if California resists? The poll cited above (also mentioned by Maddow in the video I posted), suggests they will agree with Classic Xer and say good riddance.

Trump's vision of making America great again is to make it as awful as it was back when his type ruled America.





No thanks for the heartland vision of making America great again. I am glad that California is going the right way. You guys can keep your good old days.

Heartland? there is no heart in the Heartland.
The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated Communist  but instead the people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists -- Hannah Arendt.


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Cycles of the 4T - by Arkarch - 11-12-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Warren Dew - 11-12-2016, 04:27 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Warren Dew - 11-12-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Mikebert - 11-21-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Arkarch - 12-09-2016, 04:47 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Warren Dew - 12-09-2016, 09:14 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by radind - 12-09-2016, 09:26 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 02:55 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by pbrower2a - 12-12-2016, 02:35 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 12-12-2016, 06:16 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Marypoza - 11-12-2016, 04:29 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Arkarch - 11-12-2016, 04:40 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-12-2016, 05:56 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by sheridanforbes - 11-13-2016, 12:07 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 11:33 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by naf140230 - 01-03-2017, 12:53 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Emman85 - 11-19-2016, 01:41 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 11:27 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by 2Legit2Quit - 11-21-2016, 02:23 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by disasterzone - 11-21-2016, 12:15 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 12:49 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by MillennialJim - 11-21-2016, 02:59 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 03:21 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Galen - 11-21-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by 2Legit2Quit - 11-21-2016, 04:49 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 11-21-2016, 11:05 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Odin - 12-09-2016, 07:46 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by pbrower2a - 12-09-2016, 10:21 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Mikebert - 01-03-2017, 07:13 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Arkarch - 01-08-2017, 01:54 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 01-02-2019, 07:40 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Bill the Piper - 01-03-2019, 07:13 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Eric the Green - 01-04-2019, 03:58 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Tim Randal Walker - 07-18-2018, 07:46 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Tim Randal Walker - 01-02-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by pbrower2a - 01-02-2019, 08:05 PM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by pbrower2a - 01-04-2019, 04:05 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Hintergrund - 02-06-2019, 11:19 AM
RE: Cycles of the 4T - by Tim Randal Walker - 01-29-2024, 10:30 PM

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