12-21-2016, 02:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 12-21-2016, 02:31 PM by Eric the Green.)
(12-17-2016, 09:08 PM)Ragnarök_62 Wrote:Eric the Green Wrote:Rags risks being uninformed. I guess you do pretty well, considering where you live.
Ooohhhhh.. "where you live". Yeah, OK, I don't mind. I can't really move anyhow 'cause it costs too much.
Like I sed, if I could have a redo, I'd be in Leadville now.
Like you say, being 90 miles from any MSM, I guess you do pretty well.
Quote:Have fun fighting. The DNC shouldn't have cheated on Bernie you know. Yes, I'm aware of the current big
red bait thingie going on. I paid attention what was leaked, no how it got leaked. Sorry.
Most of what was leaked was either meaningless or distorted and taken out of context. It amounts to fake news. What the DNC did to Bernie was of little consequence. Resentment over it is not fruitful or relevant.
Quote:Syria? A lot of that was spillover from the bad choice to overthrow Saddam.
Again, you say this because you are not informed enough, and believe conspiracy theories. NO, the overthrow of Saddam has little to do with what's happening in Syria. Unless you want to give George W Bush credit for inspiring rebellions for "freedom" with his war of choice on Iraq. I don't. I give the people of Syria credit for their uprising. The desire for freedom is a natural thing in this modern world. I do not like it when people attribute peoples desire for freedom and a better life to a mistake committed by the United States or some other world power. NO, the people wanted their freedom, and took their inspiration from their fellows in Tunisia, Libya and Egypt. That's called "The Arab Spring," remember? No, the Iraq War was not people rising up for freedom. It was imperialism by the USA, on the grounds that the USA had a choice to create "The New American Century."
Quote:Wars of choice = intervening in a country that does not pose a threat to US citizens in the USA. Btw, the refugee crisis in Europe is to a large degree do to the US decision to off Qaddafi. All wars of choice bring nothing but sorrow....
I of course agree about wars of choice. No should do. The refugee crisis has little to do with Libya and Qaddafi, which the USA didn't "off," but mainly helped prevent Qaddafi from wiping out his people. It does help to be informed about these things. Many non-Hillary voters were duped by the idea that the USA offed Qaddafi. NO. The people of Libya did that. The USA and even more Europe merely acted in Libya to prevent a genocidal suppression of revolt, and did not start or fight a "war" there.
We should have done something similar in Syria. Maybe not direct bombing; less probably an option because Syria is a Russian ally. But the Syria uprising and its brutal and genocidal suppression is what is responsible for most of the refugees. Not Bush's invasion of Iraq, NOR the Islamic State that resulted from it. Which is obvious to anyone who keeps up with the News and is informed about what's going on. The revolution against Assad was probably folly, but it was not a USA war of choice, but a revolution against a tyrant by his own people.
Quote:Quote:You don't watch the MSM, so you don't know a thing about it. They are adapting to Trump more than opposing him; much less crying. The only bright spot is the late night comedians. Besides, in this case, handwringing is virtuous, but especially if after we dry our tears, we start fighting the Trumpster dumpster.
I got a pretty big sample on this forum, Eric.
I doubt that. I think TV watching is very rare on this forum, for example.
Quote:Quote:Hillary was about the best that we were going to get from America today. That's the difference between me and some folks. This is America. I've been around a while, and disappointed before. There are never any really good choices for America, as far as leaders go. No, we have to suck it up and support the better of the two evils. Because--- this is Amerika. Americans are incapable in these times of choosing good leaders. That's just something to take for granted. They just proved it again, as if it needed proving again. But after 2004, that's just what I have concluded, based on solid evidence. Americans just don't know how to do it; period.
I didn't think so. I voted blank for POTUS, and then a straight D on down from there.
It's not about you; it's about Trump voters.