12-30-2016, 03:05 PM
(12-30-2016, 12:51 PM)tg63 Wrote:(12-30-2016, 11:12 AM)David Horn Wrote: [quote pid='16145' dateline='1482965966']
...Eric Wrote:The pipelines must be opposed; they are not benign. Nuclear energy must be safe, with recycling of waste, or it's not benign either. We can't do without energy, though, so all sides must be allies in the general fight against the owners of our country and their neo-liberal philosophy. That is the common enemy to all these groups within the progressive movement and the Democrats. It must be defeated so that alternative energy can be supported.
You'll never get there by being hysterical and 100% oppositional. The only viable solution that creates a wave of support is one that focuses on finding solutions for the many, and then works to implement them.
This is a great example. I doubt that most people who oppose transporting oil by pipeline understand that they are by definition supporting the transport of oil by rail. That's not benign either (see: Lac Megantic Quebec in 2009, 47 killed).
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No, that is not correct. No, opposition to the pipelines is a great cause. The only way Democrats can win is by supporting each others' causes in an alliance, not by focusing on your own cause and knocking the others. Clever excuses are baloney. Pipelines cause massive oil spills, and enable the oil industry to keep on going and expanding. It needs to stop, in a gradual but fast process of conversion away from fossil fuels. Many folks and many nations realize this. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren realize this. All progressives realize this. It is the most essential progressive cause. If you don't support it, you might as well vote for Trump; you are not on the progressive side.