01-02-2017, 03:09 PM
(12-31-2016, 08:05 AM)David Horn Wrote:(12-29-2016, 12:21 PM)The Wonkette Wrote:(12-29-2016, 08:04 AM)Odin Wrote:(12-29-2016, 02:45 AM)Classic-Xer Wrote: The 4T was much more extreme ten years ago. American politics is still about the same as it was ten years ago.
2006 was still 3T, before the Crash and before the Tea Party lunatics.
There is a contingent that believes that the 4T began on 9/11. I don't know if Classic X is part of that group. Just pointing out that it has not been established when the 4T began.
The divide between the South and North put the antebellum South in the 4T mood much earlier than it did for the North. This may, in fact, be the reason the debate about the ACW crisis is still not resolved. Is the current urban/rural divide similar, just somewhat less extreme?
Unlike Mike Alexander and many others, I've never been wedded to a fixed clock on this issue, so maybe I'm more open to variance than I should be. In any case, the fact that we still can't pinpoint the start of the 4T is telling, don't you think?
Maybe it's another reason to suspect that the Civil War saeculum and crisis mirrors our own; both can be considered "anomalous" because the notion that the 1850s or our own time is 4T is not quite obvious.