Quote:But the actual examples have the regeneracy follow the trigger by a few years in the American saeculae.
S & H dated the start of the Glorious Revolution 4T in 1675, meaning the regeneracy took 13 years, and the 4T went on for 16 more years.
Quote:The simple election of Trump is not a regeneracy because nothing has changed so far.
He hasn't even been inaugurated yet!
Quote:If unemployment is higher at the beginning of 2020 than it is now (which is likely to be the case if the business cycle still happens) then it will be hard to make the case the America will be tangibly better than it was in 2016 in which case it be hard to see that a regeneracy has occurred.
Again, reread the book! A regeneracy does not imply that all problems are solved, only that a consensus has been reached about how society is going to try to solve them, and that the populace is willing to allow them to play it out for the remainder of the 4T.
Quote: Should Trump's policies be successful and lead to a strong improvement during his second term in the 2020's, we might date the regeneracy for the recession bottom from which the recovery began. Why begin the 4T in 2008 if the most of what was done in response to 2008 was repealed? Why not begin it in 2016 if the policy that begins the recovery was put in place by new administration that came to power in 2016 which only begins to take effect after 2020 and is not complete until the 2030's?
You're making up dates again. Stop assuming your premises. If the theme of the turning ends up being retrenchment and the abandonment of the liberal older/us imperium, then it would be perfectly reasonable to date it to the beginning of Obama's presidency. See, I can throw out hypotheticals, too!