Does this Crisis echo the Glorious Revolutuon?

[Marypoza]

(01-08-2017, 11:26 AM)Odin Wrote:

(01-07-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: Agreed.  It doesn't get much better in college, either.  I have a history degree, and social history (and anything else touching on aspects of race, gender, or class) has expanded to pretty much eat up military, diplomatic, and, to a less extent, economic history.  Which, again, is not to say that social history isn't useful, and that its lack of inclusion 50 years ago wasn't wrong, but we have long since lurched to far in the opposite direction.

Also, a lot of professional historians have become a very parochial bunch and poo-poo any grand historical theories. Just even mentioning the idea that there can be great patterns and cycles in history can get you laughed at.

(01-07-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: I had an American Revolution class as Columbia where the professor spent more than half the class on the Spanish colonies, and went out of his way to talk about how unimportant and awful the people of New England were.

This makes me angry.  

(01-07-2017, 03:16 PM)SomeGuy Wrote: That's a tenuous reading of the present situation if I have ever heard one.  I would imagine (actually, I have explicitly heard) that those evil southerners feel the exact way about what the left was doing the past few years.  That's the nature of a values-mismatch, things that seem perfectly reasonable and uncontroversial to one feel like an unwarranted and aggressive intrusion on local norms to another, and vice versa.  Besides, Trump's winning margin came from the Upper Midwest.  Who knows, the next election might seem Minnesota fall into that column as well.

I think people are getting the wrong idea about what happened in the Midwest because they have this idea that blue collar whites used to be strongly Dem right up until Trump and then flipped. The Dems had a terrible candidate and many working class liberal voters up here stayed home rather than vote for her, thinking that she was going to win anyway because of the national polls. The working class white people Trump did well with are the sort of people who have been already voting Republican since Reagan.

-- both parties ran bad candidates, 1/2 the electorate didn't even bother to vote. l'm guessing it't bcuz they didn't like either candidate to the point they didn't really care who won, not bcuz they thought the hildabitch was gonna win. The media's nonstop pimping of her may have cause ppl to get out & vote for the Donald however.

I voted 4 Jill, btw